Comments on: Do Pfizer Reps Deserve A Bill Of Rights? http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/03/do_pfizer_reps_deserve_a_bill/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:28:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: madison http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/03/do_pfizer_reps_deserve_a_bill/#comment-24054 madison Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:15:16 +0000 http://plt.starledger.webfactional.com/2007/03/do_pfizer_reps_deserve_a_bill/#comment-24054 i made the job mine, and unless the dm was working with me, did it my way: ethically,passionately, with my values, not pfe's...and it worked, until 1 division's (se) way became the only way...gathering signatures was the goal.the impression re-created by this tactic(done in order to convince other pharmas to co-promo their drugs) destroyed years of personal work that put a 'face on pfe',. that new execs didn't 'get'!Now, how is the company adding $ to the bottom line? Try using benefits you paid for....maybe the IRS audits of last 5+yrs returns of pfe will find our $. Has anyone out there had to fight this fight? If so, what works to beat the SOB's? i made the job mine, and unless the dm was working with me, did it my way:
ethically,passionately, with my values, not pfe’s…and it worked, until 1 division’s (se) way became the only way…gathering signatures was the goal.the impression re-created by this tactic(done in order to convince other pharmas to co-promo their drugs) destroyed
years of personal work that put a ‘face on pfe’,. that new execs didn’t ‘get’!Now, how is the company adding $ to the bottom line? Try using benefits you paid for….maybe the IRS audits of last 5+yrs returns of pfe will find our $.

Has anyone out there had to fight this fight? If so, what works to beat the SOB’s?

]]> By: ed http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/03/do_pfizer_reps_deserve_a_bill/#comment-2987 ed Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:00:33 +0000 http://plt.starledger.webfactional.com/2007/03/do_pfizer_reps_deserve_a_bill/#comment-2987 Hi 'John,' Good to hear from you and what you say is very interesting, although its also sobering. Interestingly, I've been accused of being too tough, sometimes, on the industry, but find that it can be helpful to hold up a mirror now and then to spur a little dialogue and thought. I think you're blog is fun - the notion that your posts somehow reflect your view of being sales rep comes through often enough. I do look forward to more first-person accounts or real-life scenarios, if only because that would help others better understand the feelings you're expressing somewhat indirectly. But that's not a criticism, just my take. Anyway, it's nice to see someone in the industry willing to go beyond the party line, however it must be done. Candor is always enlightening. Keep at it. ed Hi ‘John,’

Good to hear from you and what you say is very interesting, although its also sobering.

Interestingly, I’ve been accused of being too tough, sometimes, on the industry, but find that it can be helpful to hold up a mirror now and then to spur a little dialogue and thought.

I think you’re blog is fun - the notion that your posts somehow reflect your view of being sales rep comes through often enough. I do look forward to more first-person accounts or real-life scenarios, if only because that would help others better understand the feelings you’re expressing somewhat indirectly. But that’s not a criticism, just my take.

Anyway, it’s nice to see someone in the industry willing to go beyond the party line, however it must be done. Candor is always enlightening.

Keep at it.

ed

]]> By: John S http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/03/do_pfizer_reps_deserve_a_bill/#comment-2986 John S Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:10:17 +0000 http://plt.starledger.webfactional.com/2007/03/do_pfizer_reps_deserve_a_bill/#comment-2986 Hi Ed, I am a little surprised about how this has gained traction. I am actually on a wi fi card so in between my calls I do some googling and some posting. I started this not to talk about my life as a rep anyone who is one knows the drill. I am doing it to mimic the feelings of other reps in both a serious and satirical way although I like many things I just did it out of sheer frustration at first. I posted my reason for being here on the site and for what it is worth I made a decision to break the mold I have been in for the last decade. I will post more specific experienceswhen I can the time just isn't right. Doing the blog has allowed me to see some things I had been ignoring for quite some time and it is very specific to our industry. Sure the pay is good but with the personal and ethical trade offs the scale is tipping for many. The money just doesn't equal the job as it has been defined not only by the company, the FDA but also the public in general. I once asked a doctor what he thought I did when I wasn't working. I told him I go home and take a long hard look at myself then I mow the lawn and become a real person for awhile. I enjoy reading your blog it has enlightened me a great deal. JS Hi Ed,

I am a little surprised about how this has gained traction. I am actually on a wi fi card so in between my calls I do some googling and some posting. I started this not to talk about my life as a rep anyone who is one knows the drill. I am doing it to mimic the feelings of other reps in both a serious and satirical way although I like many things I just did it out of sheer frustration at first. I posted my reason for being here on the site and for what it is worth I made a decision to break the mold I have been in for the last decade. I will post more specific experienceswhen I can the time just isn’t right. Doing the blog has allowed me to see some things I had been ignoring for quite some time and it is very specific to our industry. Sure the pay is good but with the personal and ethical trade offs the scale is tipping for many. The money just doesn’t equal the job as it has been defined not only by the company, the FDA but also the public in general. I once asked a doctor what he thought I did when I wasn’t working. I told him I go home and take a long hard look at myself then I mow the lawn and become a real person for awhile.

I enjoy reading your blog it has enlightened me a great deal.

JS

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