I was in health care when your so-called “ethical pharma” days were going on. And you know what, I decided the people calling on me had better jobs than I had. So I have literally seen both sides of it. I have carried the bag, and now I have a different role in pharma. Degrees can get you moved up when you want to. So I work from home, not required to go out and pretend to work a full day. I still get out from time to time - both on my own and with reps. But the majority of my time is spent in my office ,the home office or with our key opinion leaders.

Yes, everything changed. And everything will continue to change. Only the ones too old to change deny that. I understand you made way too much money doing what you did, and now think that age and wealth equate to always being right. Sound like anyone you called on? I actually liked medicine when I graduated. Things changed, I found a better way to support my family without selling out my soul and then complaining about it.

I am just asking you to either admit you sold out your soul when things changed, or quit talking about how you are going to redeem yourself with your book on the dirty practices that everyone “except you” did in the industry. Doesn’t happen anymore, doesn’t happen in the US, at least it doesn’t in my company.

Good luck with your smear campaign, please limit it to outside the USA. I really don’t care if you hurt your countrymen, but don’t hurt the reputation of hard working, God fearing, Americans trying to do the best they can to support their families.

Internal whistleblowers is not where it is at - I am begging for someone to tell me to do something off-label. I will RUN to the FDA, as that 5% is my retirement. I think the industry knows that there are more people like me in this business than people who lie on CP.

If after 30 years you may have to go back into the industry - you have obviously done something very wrong. That tells me more about you. If it isn’t something you are proud to do, why not find something useful to do that helps society? I look at this job as the ideal way to support my family. I and my company do things the right way. I use my personal time to make a difference in the world. It is amazing how much you can help when you sacrifice your time and money to help others.

So you and Peter can think you have really made a difference and are changing the world. If thinking you won’t get rehired makes you feel better, good for you.

You can think you worked for “ethical pharma” or whatever, but I am guessing they hired you as a “sales rep”. You can think it was really different, but it was and always will be SALES.

That is a great name for yourself. Why didn’t you have the morals to either be a whistleblower or get out of the industry? Have you been in the industry over the last 5 years with a reputable company?

Anyone who tells me to check out cafepharma does not get any credit whatsoever. It is simply where the worst humans hang out to trade lies and awful, vulgar language. It is the same negative 8 people from each company on there. Also, in this day and age — do you really feel like docs trust reps at all? No, these guys don’t believe anything out of a reps mouth. Why do you think the arms race is over and people are cutting reps. — because they have oversatuarated and no one either sees reps or believes them.

If a rep is not smart enough to know what is in their label, and believes everything they are told, they are equally at fault.

Nice career though hypocrit. Stay in a seedy profession, document it after the fact, on things that happend decades ago. But then feel better about yourself because you “made a difference with my book”.

Jamie Reidy wrote a funny book about carrying the bag, he didn’t make that much dough, I wouldn’t plan on this being your retirement. Although with 30 years in, I guess you have a great pension plan waiting for you. Nice job of screwing your employer after you are out instead of standing up for the right thing over the last 30 years.

In my naive little world ADHD drugs are overprescribed because parents are awful in this day and age and take their kids to get medicated because it is easier than instillin discipline at home.

Fungus and antifungal agents won’t be overprescribed b/c parents won’t demand it. Teachers won’t complain about behavior problems. Look at what is driving these “unethical” scrips - patients or parents. Depression, psychoses, other mental issues are subjectively diagnoses at the urging of the patient side of the relationship. If people didn’t come in and demand they get Cymbalta because they saw it on TV and it might help they wouldn’t get it.

Businessed do that advertising because they are allowed to, and it works. They are still businesses, this isn’t Cuba. Let me know in a year how many hundred of thousands of dollars the sprinkles have sold. But good luck finding that info as it will be such a small number it won’t make anyone’s annual report.

In this day and age, if a doc prescribes a drug solely because of some “Off-label” marketing tactic, they are a MORON. And the patient is seeing the wrong doc. Do more research on your doc than on your car

You must be from R & D because you appear to believe in medicaine and science for the good of mankind. It’s the Big pharma dark side that makes everyone angry! Pushing drugs for off-label indications and using every unethical, illegal trick in the book, while exposing patients to unknown risk. If you get caught, just hire a bunch of lawyers, admit no wrongdoing, pay a huge fine that comes from the shareholders pockets, protect the big shots, and laugh all the way to the bank.

They deserve all the negative press they get and more. In the news this morning is Lilly - another company with a long line of violations. Why these companies can’t sell ethical pharmaceuticals ethically is the big issue. They’re just too darn greedy and simply can’t help themselves!

MD

Hmm, OK, you’re right they won’t figure out how to get the schools involved and there certainly won’t be any intervention with the little children getting their little toes inspected for fungus because they don’t run fast enough in the gym?

I mean after all they are already in the schools with ritalin…

But, you’re right it is so much better to live in your naive little world….