Comments on: Gardasil: Conservative Group Trumpets Side Effects http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:34:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Gardasil Scrutinized Over 2 Deaths In Europe | Pharmacy Tips http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-113783 Gardasil Scrutinized Over 2 Deaths In Europe | Pharmacy Tips Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:49:06 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-113783 [...] has been the focus of side effect issues. Twice last year, a conservative group, Judicial Watch, trumpeted side-effect reports obtained from the FDA that showed thousands of adverse reactions and [...] [...] has been the focus of side effect issues. Twice last year, a conservative group, Judicial Watch, trumpeted side-effect reports obtained from the FDA that showed thousands of adverse reactions and [...]

]]> By: Shannon http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-23179 Shannon Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:21:36 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-23179 This drug is all about "money"...Merck and the govt. (FDA) settled a tax issue......this was a fast track drug with flaws in the trials.....We do not know the long term effects........ especially when it comes to "children".... This drug is all about “money”…Merck and the govt. (FDA) settled a tax issue……this was a fast track drug with flaws in the trials…..We do not know the long term effects…….. especially when it comes to “children”….

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-22063 Doug Bremner Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:12:32 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-22063 that's a good point about the viral strain selection. that’s a good point about the viral strain selection.

]]> By: Darrel Crain http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21988 Darrel Crain Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:38:17 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21988 Another couple of issues come to mind regarding the HPV vaccine. Will we see "replacement disease" such as that we are seeing with prevnar, inadvertently selecting other HPV strains not covered by the vaccine that may prove more virulent? Another problem with mass vaccination in general is the ever-increasing toxic burden resulting from common vaccine ingredients such as aluminum phosphate. In light of runaway chronic degenerative disease in this country, every toxic input known to be immunogenic and carcinogenic should be viewed as a potential contributor. Another couple of issues come to mind regarding the HPV vaccine. Will we see “replacement disease” such as that we are seeing with prevnar, inadvertently selecting other HPV strains not covered by the vaccine that may prove more virulent? Another problem with mass vaccination in general is the ever-increasing toxic burden resulting from common vaccine ingredients such as aluminum phosphate. In light of runaway chronic degenerative disease in this country, every toxic input known to be immunogenic and carcinogenic should be viewed as a potential contributor.

]]> By: Reality http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21890 Reality Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:16:56 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21890 Doug, But I wasn't talking about the flu vaccine. Nonetheless, your point regarding it is well taken, and to me, reinforces the strength and purpose of the HPV vaccines. Whereas the flu vaccine is an annual guessing game, the HPV vaccines are multivalent and specifically target those strains most likely to cause lesions. Doug,

But I wasn’t talking about the flu vaccine. Nonetheless, your point regarding it is well taken, and to me, reinforces the strength and purpose of the HPV vaccines. Whereas the flu vaccine is an annual guessing game, the HPV vaccines are multivalent and specifically target those strains most likely to cause lesions.

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21886 Doug Bremner Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:39:18 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21886 the CDC recommends for all under 6 and over 50. The problem is that there are many strains of flu and the vaccine targets only one, and you need the shots every year cause the viruses keep training. The experts in the literature are actually saying not to use it, although noone seems to listen to them. Quoting epidemiologist Tom Jefferson below: “The optimistic and confident tone of some predictions of viral circulation and of the impact of inactivated vaccines, which are at odds with the evidence, is striking. The reasons are probably complex and may involve a ‘messy blend of truth conflicts and conflicts of interest making it difficult to separate factual disputes from value disputes’ or a manifestation of optimism bias (an unwarranted belief in the efficacy of interventions)” Jefferson, T. Influenza vaccination: policy versus evidence. British Medical Journal. 2007;333:912-915 the CDC recommends for all under 6 and over 50. The problem is that there are many strains of flu and the vaccine targets only one, and you need the shots every year cause the viruses keep training. The experts in the literature are actually saying not to use it, although noone seems to listen to them. Quoting epidemiologist Tom Jefferson below:

“The optimistic and confident tone of some predictions of viral circulation and of the impact of inactivated vaccines, which are at odds with the evidence, is striking. The reasons are probably complex and may involve a ‘messy blend of truth conflicts and conflicts of interest making it difficult to separate factual disputes from value disputes’ or a manifestation of optimism bias (an unwarranted belief in the efficacy of interventions)”
Jefferson, T. Influenza vaccination: policy versus evidence. British Medical Journal. 2007;333:912-915

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21885 Doug Bremner Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:37:10 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21885 That's a personal choice. I wouldn't say that it is absolutely not worth it. Flu vaccine is another matter. The only group where it has been shown to save lives is older people with COPD. Nevertheless the CDC recommends for all That’s a personal choice. I wouldn’t say that it is absolutely not worth it.

Flu vaccine is another matter. The only group where it has been shown to save lives is older people with COPD. Nevertheless the CDC recommends for all

]]> By: Reality http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21864 Reality Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:20:56 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21864 Doug, I was speaking more generally. As I wrote several times, I pretty much not in favor of mandating. However, as I and others noted, there's both morbidity and mortality involved here, so to simplify it as it simply isn't worth it to save so few lives leaves out the issue of associated personal and community disease burden. So let's rephrase, is is worth $300 (or less) per parent who chooses to vaccinate his/her daughter before she is sexually active in order to prevent acquiring and further spreading HPV, and risking cervical cancer and any associated medical issues? Doug,

I was speaking more generally. As I wrote several times, I pretty much not in favor of mandating. However, as I and others noted, there’s both morbidity and mortality involved here, so to simplify it as it simply isn’t worth it to save so few lives leaves out the issue of associated personal and community disease burden.

So let’s rephrase, is is worth $300 (or less) per parent who chooses to vaccinate his/her daughter before she is sexually active in order to prevent acquiring and further spreading HPV, and risking cervical cancer and any associated medical issues?

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21857 Doug Bremner Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:52:20 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21857 My point was that the science is not so open and shut that the federal or state governments should not be mandating this vaccine. Since the long term effects are not known people should be able to choose for themselves. There was a clear conflict of interest in the events that led to the state of Texas mandating the vaccine. Tell me I am wrong but by my calculations about .1% of women will die from HPV related cervical cancer, which means it costs $350,000 to save a life from cervical cancer. You can argue about how much a life is worth, but it is irresponsible to say that there should be no limit on how much we should spend to save a single life, since that is where we got into the health care financial mess we are in now. My point was that the science is not so open and shut that the federal or state governments should not be mandating this vaccine. Since the long term effects are not known people should be able to choose for themselves. There was a clear conflict of interest in the events that led to the state of Texas mandating the vaccine. Tell me I am wrong but by my calculations about .1% of women will die from HPV related cervical cancer, which means it costs $350,000 to save a life from cervical cancer. You can argue about how much a life is worth, but it is irresponsible to say that there should be no limit on how much we should spend to save a single life, since that is where we got into the health care financial mess we are in now.

]]> By: Adriana http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21716 Adriana Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:30:57 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/gardasil-conservative-group-trumpets-side-effects/#comment-21716 What would the nonvaccinated HPV death rate be in the age group of girls who died from adverse vaccine reaction? What would the nonvaccinated HPV death rate be in the age group of girls who died from adverse vaccine reaction?

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