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	<title>Comments on: Pfizer Strikes Deal With Sermo&#8217;s Online Doctor Forum</title>
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		<title>By: Online Doctor</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/pfizer-strikes-deal-with-sermos-online-doctor-forum/#comment-310116</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bait and switch is right.  However, I believe that Pfizer and other drugmaker already participate in online forums discretely to push their products and sway public opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bait and switch is right.  However, I believe that Pfizer and other drugmaker already participate in online forums discretely to push their products and sway public opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: peagee</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/pfizer-strikes-deal-with-sermos-online-doctor-forum/#comment-22187</link>
		<dc:creator>peagee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  A drug maker with a cure for Professional Ethics in Medicine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  A drug maker with a cure for Professional Ethics in Medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/pfizer-strikes-deal-with-sermos-online-doctor-forum/#comment-22145</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only criteria for participation in Sermo is that you are a physician.  Physicians who work for pharmaceutical firms were not excluded. Just because a corporate logo does not appear does not mean it is free from pharma influence. 

Given that Sermo paying clients (ie. pharma companies, investment firms, etc.) can post questions (and have their MD employeess or their KOLs answer them), it seems like a key opportunity for off-label promotion even prior to the Pfizer arrangement.  

From their FAQ: "There's obviously lots of utility for Sermo in being a place where physicians can share info about "off-label" uses of drugsâ€¦"
Response:  "Posting information to Sermo on off-label uses does not necessarily expose a posting physician to liability. The Sermo forum is provided to allow the free exchange of scientific information. However, physicians posting to the Sermo forum should disclose any bias or financial conflicts of interest to allow physicians utilizing the information to be allowed to make fully informed medical decisions as to any proposed "off-label" use of medication. The full disclosure of all biases or conflicts will assure that doctors proscribing "off-label" treatments are exercising their independent informed medical judgment."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only criteria for participation in Sermo is that you are a physician.  Physicians who work for pharmaceutical firms were not excluded. Just because a corporate logo does not appear does not mean it is free from pharma influence. </p>
<p>Given that Sermo paying clients (ie. pharma companies, investment firms, etc.) can post questions (and have their MD employeess or their KOLs answer them), it seems like a key opportunity for off-label promotion even prior to the Pfizer arrangement.  </p>
<p>From their FAQ: &#8220;There&#8217;s obviously lots of utility for Sermo in being a place where physicians can share info about &#8220;off-label&#8221; uses of drugsâ€¦&#8221;<br />
Response:  &#8220;Posting information to Sermo on off-label uses does not necessarily expose a posting physician to liability. The Sermo forum is provided to allow the free exchange of scientific information. However, physicians posting to the Sermo forum should disclose any bias or financial conflicts of interest to allow physicians utilizing the information to be allowed to make fully informed medical decisions as to any proposed &#8220;off-label&#8221; use of medication. The full disclosure of all biases or conflicts will assure that doctors proscribing &#8220;off-label&#8221; treatments are exercising their independent informed medical judgment.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/pfizer-strikes-deal-with-sermos-online-doctor-forum/#comment-22139</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a ripoff to me and to the AMA. I joined Sermo following AMA's endorsement a few months ago... on the basis that "pharma would be kept out". 

Clearly this deal with Pfizer was already in the works - despite effusive words to the contrary. I won't be using Sermo again, and will be much more skeptical of an AMA endorsement in future. I feel like I've just been had in an elaborate internet bait and switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a ripoff to me and to the AMA. I joined Sermo following AMA&#8217;s endorsement a few months ago&#8230; on the basis that &#8220;pharma would be kept out&#8221;. </p>
<p>Clearly this deal with Pfizer was already in the works - despite effusive words to the contrary. I won&#8217;t be using Sermo again, and will be much more skeptical of an AMA endorsement in future. I feel like I&#8217;ve just been had in an elaborate internet bait and switch.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/10/pfizer-strikes-deal-with-sermos-online-doctor-forum/#comment-22113</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>""conceivably, create myriad scenarios in which, says, off-label info is conveyed or trial results are somehow whispered prematurely or selectively.""

Already this scenario is in place with patient groups who chat through listservs.  The patients may discuss clinical trial results in highly active/competive clinical research areas, or the group itself my collect medical information or anecdotal clinical trial results from its members.  There are interesting possibilities regarding how the patient groups may use or where they might distribute such information.  No wonder companies have a lot of interests in these groups, including subsidizing them with "educational grant" money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;conceivably, create myriad scenarios in which, says, off-label info is conveyed or trial results are somehow whispered prematurely or selectively.&#8221;"</p>
<p>Already this scenario is in place with patient groups who chat through listservs.  The patients may discuss clinical trial results in highly active/competive clinical research areas, or the group itself my collect medical information or anecdotal clinical trial results from its members.  There are interesting possibilities regarding how the patient groups may use or where they might distribute such information.  No wonder companies have a lot of interests in these groups, including subsidizing them with &#8220;educational grant&#8221; money.</p>
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