Comments on: Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder - A Pill, Please http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:39:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: helendezel http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-313111 helendezel Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:08:58 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-313111 I am a fifty year old woman with Persistant Genital Arousal Disorder. I suppose that some people would believe that with my sex drive waning due to menopause, that this disorder would be a blessing in disguise. I can assure you, it is not. It is a nightmare and since when did it become okay to make fun of people with a medical disorder (no matter how strange it may seem to you)? Having PGAD is not as simple as it sounds and not enjoyable as you would imagine in your minds. Anyone who has gone several "rounds" in bed in which their genitalia becomes extremely sensitive would have an idea as to how this feels. It is similar to that sensitivity but much, much stronger -- to the point of pain. And no amount of masturbation or intercourse makes it better. In fact, quite often, it makes it worse. I have enough of a sense of humor to poke some fun but only with my closest of friends - friends who have accompanied me to the emergency room in desperation to find relief from the pain. The comments on this board are not funny, just tasteless and minimizing to women. What next - snatching canes from blind people? Helendezel I am a fifty year old woman with Persistant Genital Arousal Disorder. I suppose that some people would believe that with my sex drive waning due to menopause, that this disorder would be a blessing in disguise. I can assure you, it is not. It is a nightmare and since when did it become okay to make fun of people with a medical disorder (no matter how strange it may seem to you)? Having PGAD is not as simple as it sounds and not enjoyable as you would imagine in your minds. Anyone who has gone several “rounds” in bed in which their genitalia becomes extremely sensitive would have an idea as to how this feels. It is similar to that sensitivity but much, much stronger — to the point of pain. And no amount of masturbation or intercourse makes it better. In fact, quite often, it makes it worse.

I have enough of a sense of humor to poke some fun but only with my closest of friends - friends who have accompanied me to the emergency room in desperation to find relief from the pain. The comments on this board are not funny, just tasteless and minimizing to women. What next - snatching canes from blind people?

Helendezel

]]> By: Lisa Van S http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-34979 Lisa Van S Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:36:08 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-34979 Sid, "You have to do your own due diligence" I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately I had to learn this lesson the hard way. But I wont give a Doc a free ride when he fails to share this vital information Sid,

“You have to do your own due diligence”

I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately I had to learn this lesson the hard way. But I wont give a Doc a free ride when he fails to share this vital information

]]> By: sid http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-34934 sid Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:40:16 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-34934 Lisa, these go out all the time on so many different drugs. A week doesn't go by that one doesn't come in. I am sure I saw it, but 200 Dear Healthcare provider letters later it doesn't really mean much. There are two types of medicine - textbook medicine where everything is readily diagnosed, treatable with medications for FDA approved conditions. Then there is real life. Patients don't come in off the street with a sign above there head with the diagnosis - many shades of gray in diagnosis and treatment. But it is just funny when a statement comes out supporting what you want it to say that there is something wrong with that. Don't you accuse manufacturers of promoting for kids when they shouldn't? Did I miss something? And just so you know, I really don't trust the manufacturers to give me a clear view of any drug. You have to do you own due diligence. Lisa, these go out all the time on so many different drugs. A week doesn’t go by that one doesn’t come in. I am sure I saw it, but 200 Dear Healthcare provider letters later it doesn’t really mean much. There are two types of medicine - textbook medicine where everything is readily diagnosed, treatable with medications for FDA approved conditions. Then there is real life. Patients don’t come in off the street with a sign above there head with the diagnosis - many shades of gray in diagnosis and treatment. But it is just funny when a statement comes out supporting what you want it to say that there is something wrong with that. Don’t you accuse manufacturers of promoting for kids when they shouldn’t? Did I miss something?

And just so you know, I really don’t trust the manufacturers to give me a clear view of any drug. You have to do you own due diligence.

]]> By: Lisa Van S http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-34915 Lisa Van S Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:12:27 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-34915 Sid, "Wyeth letter from 2003" Its never to old,when one sees it for the first time,....True? Sid,

“Wyeth letter from 2003″

Its never to old,when one sees it for the first time,….True?

]]> By: Ed Silverman http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33991 Ed Silverman Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:36:58 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33991 Hi Todd and others, There is one moderator - and that is me. And as I've indicated, I would like the comments to avoid crossing the line from intense discussion to personal attacks or vitriol. This goes for everyone. And yes, a few comments were deleted recently - comments by various people, including LVS (as you call her). You're all free to disagree as much as you like. I don't question that and don't want to get in the way. But, as I've also indicated, I've decided the baiting - no matter who is doing it - isn't desirable. So I've signaled to several people to please avoid doing so. Please don't confuse that with taking sides or censorship. I would suspect that, at the end of the day, everyone would appreciate a little more civility. I'm simply trying to make that possible. Regards ed at Pharmalot Hi Todd and others,

There is one moderator - and that is me. And as I’ve indicated, I would like the comments to avoid crossing the line from intense discussion to personal attacks or vitriol. This goes for everyone.

And yes, a few comments were deleted recently - comments by various people, including LVS (as you call her). You’re all free to disagree as much as you like. I don’t question that and don’t want to get in the way. But, as I’ve also indicated, I’ve decided the baiting - no matter who is doing it - isn’t desirable.

So I’ve signaled to several people to please avoid doing so. Please don’t confuse that with taking sides or censorship. I would suspect that, at the end of the day, everyone would appreciate a little more civility. I’m simply trying to make that possible.

Regards
ed at Pharmalot

]]> By: Donna http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33979 Donna Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:25:16 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33979 Todd, You have alway's been a gentleman on this site, agreement's and disagreement's all put aside, let's treat eachother with respect, and if you can't understand why some of Bob's reply's were deleted, he crossed the line..big time on many occasion's, i have no degree's in anything, but if there was a degree on how to treat other people, then i give that one to myself.......... Todd,
You have alway’s been a gentleman on this site, agreement’s and disagreement’s all put aside, let’s treat eachother with respect, and if you can’t understand why some of Bob’s reply’s were deleted, he crossed the line..big time on many occasion’s, i have no degree’s in anything, but if there was a degree on how to treat other people, then i give that one to myself……….

]]> By: sid http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33976 sid Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:23:44 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33976 Lisa, I read this post and had a question: "Lisa Van S Sid, Global Warming, Iran’s Nuclear Capacity I blame on government. Is there poor parenting, absolutely.. Do I claim SSRI’s increase violence/Suicide in children,…Absolutely. So does Industry see here: http://www.effexorxr.com/pdf/wyeth_hcp.pdf and here: http://healthyskepticism.org/documents/documents/dearhcp.pdf" So I clicked the first link and read the Wyeth letter from 2003 - glad there is no new information and this is your proof piece. It warns docs that the med isn't approved in peds - also again, it is from 2003, did I mention that? You couldn't have written a better piece, what did you want them to say? Also if they were warning about not using in peds in 2003, why do you have a problem with that? Do you hate it when drug companies do what they are supposed to do? The next link was so old that it is no longer on the interweb. So I am guessing this was even older than 2003? Have anything pre Y2K that I could take a look at? Thanks and thanks for stopping by Lisa, I read this post and had a question:

“Lisa Van S
Sid,

Global Warming, Iran’s Nuclear Capacity I blame on government.

Is there poor parenting, absolutely..

Do I claim SSRI’s increase violence/Suicide in children,…Absolutely. So does Industry see here:
http://www.effexorxr.com/pdf/wyeth_hcp.pdf
and here:
http://healthyskepticism.org/documents/documents/dearhcp.pdf”

So I clicked the first link and read the Wyeth letter from 2003 - glad there is no new information and this is your proof piece. It warns docs that the med isn’t approved in peds - also again, it is from 2003, did I mention that? You couldn’t have written a better piece, what did you want them to say? Also if they were warning about not using in peds in 2003, why do you have a problem with that? Do you hate it when drug companies do what they are supposed to do?

The next link was so old that it is no longer on the interweb. So I am guessing this was even older than 2003?

Have anything pre Y2K that I could take a look at?

Thanks and thanks for stopping by

]]> By: TOdd http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33961 TOdd Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:02:51 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33961 Bob, don't worry, I have been deleted as well. So it seems if anyone questions LVS, you have a good shot at being deleted. If this somehow gets past the censors - LVS, could you please post your resume or last job application. Just to stay on topic - I have to agree with George, these women masturbate a lot. Please no one ever bring up the Omaha story unless you have proof Ellen. It sounds to me more like a mentally disturbed kid that wasn't receiving treatment. If properly medicated maybe it wouldn't have been a story. Ellen/Lisa - which med school did you graduate from? Bob, don’t worry, I have been deleted as well. So it seems if anyone questions LVS, you have a good shot at being deleted.

If this somehow gets past the censors - LVS, could you please post your resume or last job application.

Just to stay on topic - I have to agree with George, these women masturbate a lot.

Please no one ever bring up the Omaha story unless you have proof Ellen. It sounds to me more like a mentally disturbed kid that wasn’t receiving treatment. If properly medicated maybe it wouldn’t have been a story.

Ellen/Lisa - which med school did you graduate from?

]]> By: Lisa Van S http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33634 Lisa Van S Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:02:06 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33634 Nathan, I have never backed down from a good fight, especially when it comes to the Safety and Efficay of the Medicines our children take. Last word,..you got that right!!! Nathan,

I have never backed down from a good fight, especially when it comes to the Safety and Efficay of the Medicines our children take.

Last word,..you got that right!!!

]]> By: Ed Silverman http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33573 Ed Silverman Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:20:41 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/12/persistent-genital-arousal-disorder-a-pill-please/#comment-33573 Hi Bob, There's no agenda. I would like people to stay on topic - or at least avoid comments that appear personal even as they meander in their discussions. Although I've been a business journalist for many years, running such a site is new to me this year - I am feeling my way through this. But I would like to keep the discourse civil. And this goes for all involved. [Added thought - just so you know, I exercised my right to remove several such posts by various people]. And meanwhile, if one person is annoying or frustrating, just ignore that person. This is an evolving medium. Let's all try to make it work productively. Cheers, ed at Pharmalot Hi Bob,

There’s no agenda. I would like people to stay on topic - or at least avoid comments that appear personal even as they meander in their discussions. Although I’ve been a business journalist for many years, running such a site is new to me this year - I am feeling my way through this. But I would like to keep the discourse civil. And this goes for all involved. [Added thought - just so you know, I exercised my right to remove several such posts by various people]. And meanwhile, if one person is annoying or frustrating, just ignore that person. This is an evolving medium. Let’s all try to make it work productively.

Cheers,

ed at Pharmalot

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