Washington DC To Vote On Licensing Sales Reps
4 CommentsBy Ed Silverman // December 10th, 2007 // 8:06 am
The District of Columbia could become the first jurisdiction in the US to license reps when the district council votes on Tuesday. The council member behind the move says the bill would help protect docs and patients from disreputable agents who help drive up the costs of prescription drugs, but pharma argues the move is unnecessary because it overlaps with federal laws, The Washington Post writes.
The council will also vote on banning reps from using a doc’s prescription data for marketing without the doc’s knowledge. At issue, says council member David Catania, is an industry whose reps can mislead docs and patients into buying the most expensive drugs on the market, shunning reasonably priced generics or drugs that could be just as effective. Because a reps salary is dependent on sales, they sometimes give the wrong impressions about drugs and present themselves as medical professionals, Catania charges.
Other professions are licensed, Catania tells the Post - why not pharmaceutical sales? “If it is good enough for cosmetologists, it ought to be good enough for the pharmaceutical company,” he says. Under the bill, a pharmacy board would be formed and would create a code of ethics for salespeople and license them. The reps would have to be college grad and would be prohibited from using titles that could lead docs to think they are licensed to practice medicine, pharmacy, nursing or in other health fields.
If such a bill passes, it could open the door for states to try to create similar legislation.
In recent weeks, the District has become a battleground for those who have targeted pharma in hopes of reining in drug prices and securing stronger local regs, the Post notes. The industry is embroiled in court cases in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont over recently passed state laws meant to curb companies’ “data mining,” the practice of reviewing doctors’ prescriptions without their knowledge and targeting them with aggressive marketing.
PhRMA has countered efforts to regulate drugmakers, saying the FDA and the American Medical Association have laws and policies to scrutinize them. “The DC government should not be trying to insert itself into an arena that is already well covered nationwide by federal agencies,” Ken Johnson, a PhRMA senior vp, said in a statement. “We should avoid the confusion of a patchwork quilt of local laws.” Marjorie Powell, the group’s senior assistant general counsel, tells the Post that Catania’s bill is “a misuse of the District’s resources…It’s sort of a solution in search of a problem,” she says.
About 3,000 to 4,000 sales reps work in the DC region and cast a wide net outside the area, Powell adds. “They typically work in D.C. and in Maryland and Virginia, Delaware and Pennsylvania. Should they be licensed in all of those jurisdictions?” she asked. “It’s going to be a fairly huge administrative process.” She also says that the average sales rep receives training two to three times a year and “typically has a background in science, medicine or pharmacy.”
Catania said federal agencies do not have the resources to closely monitor the multibillion-dollar trade. “If we put a chink in that armor, I think it will shake the pharmaceutical industry to its core,” he said. “This is about patient safety, having decisions made based on science and efficacy, not money.” He and other supporters of the bill say patient health can be threatened by reps who provide false info about meds.
Catania, chairman of the council’s health committee, has been lobbying colleagues for support, pushing the bill out of committee with a 3 to 2 vote and altering it to accommodate concerns. But pharmaceutical lobbyists have been right on his heels, enlisting David Wilmot, a local lawyer who knows the political landscape.
Wilmot and some council members, including Marion Barry, have questioned whether Catania’s bill would really protect patients or whether it is a pet project for the lawmaker, who was recently elected chairman of the National Legislative Association on Prescription Drug Prices. Formed in 2000, the group of state legislators is building a reputation for taking on the pharmaceutical industry.
The debate is open on the 13-member council, with no majority on either side of the issue. Although both have claimed the support of Muriel Bowser, she said she is undecided. “I’m waiting to see some amendments,” she says. The problem with the legislation, some council members have said, is that it is several bills in one - and they have to agree with each part to pass it.
Barry, one of the dissenting voters on the health committee, said he doubts the bill would have any effect on the city’s status as having some of the highest rates of several chronic diseases in the nation. “We’ve got the biggest AIDS epidemic in the country,” he says. “Spend time working on that.” Barry is particularly critical of the legislation’s licensing rules. “If you regulate detailers, so what?” he asked. “The doctors don’t need to be protected from detailers.”
Christopher McCoy disagrees. McCoy, a physician in internal medicine in Minnesota, is a member of the prescription privacy committee of the National Physicians Alliance. The group of doctors, formed two years ago, does not accept money from drugmkakers. There has been controversy recently over doctors receiving money from drug companies for speaking engagements and other activities, which critics say influences doctors’ prescription choices.
“Our self-confidence makes us believe we are immune to marketing,” McCoy says. “Why would the drug companies spend $12 billion if it didn’t work?”
The industry actually spends an average of $25 billion a year on marketing, and 60 percent of that is for pharmaceutical samples, Powell says. Last year, it also spent $55.2 billion on research and development of new medicines, she adds.
McCoy said his group is most worried about data mining. “They have more information than we do. Most doctors I talk to are offended by this,” he says. A US District judge blocked New Hampshire this year from enforcing its law prohibiting data mining on the grounds that it restricts commercial free speech.
A New Hampshire legislator, Cindy Rosenwald, says the state is appealing. “There’s no question that using doctors’ prescriptions to fine-tune your marketing plan has an impact on drug sales,” she said. “There’s no other industry that has such detailed information of their customers without their permission.”
Powell maintains data mining has benefits for patients because reps can learn more about which drugs docs are prescribing and better inform them of their effects.
Dan
Regarding comments stated by Ms. Powell:
As far as the multiple training sessions she states pharma reps participate in annually, these sessions are not focused on disease states and treatment regimens, but rather marketing implementation ideas mandated by the pharma companies that are conducting such ‘training sessions’. They are, in fact, planning meetings to move market share of whatever products such companies promote. That is the focus of such ’sessions’. Aside from the initial training pharma reps receive upon becoming employed by pharma companies, or new product launches by such companies, there is little if any clinical training that takes place afterwards for pharma reps that is presented entirely to benefit patients or the rep’s knowledge of medical treatment or diseases. However, clinical data is presented at such sessions that is designed entirely to move market share of the promoted products that the pharma company is presently focused on at such a session.
As far as Ms. Powell’s comment about pharma reps., ‘typically’, having a background in science, medicine, or pharmacy has not been the case at all in my decade with 3 big pharma companies working in sales. In fact, such a background, in my experience, is rare for a pharma rep to possess. In fact, I’ve found that a sales and marketing background is more typical of a pharma rep. There are pharma reps that have a science or medical background of some sort, yet, in my experience, this is more rare than typical.
Grief
Good for Mr. Catania. I hope to meet him and see if there is any way I can help. Having lost my only son to Zyprexa, I will never give up battling back, even though they have all the marbles.
ol cranky
I think that mandatory compliance training and certification handled outside the company setting can only be a good thing. I know of too many instances where compliance training is a joke or done with a wink and a nod.
The next step after that would be mandatory training and certification to be able to work as a PI on clinical trials. In recent experience I have come across companies using their investigator sponsored study programs as a way to hide off label sampling (I give you free samples for “experimental use” and you write up some case studies) without the docs realizing the arrangement isn’t exactly kosher.
Rep ready to take the test
What will the cost of the training be for a rep? How many classes will be taken to earn the certification?