Comments on: Big Pharma, Real People, Bitter Web Site http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:44:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Ed Silverman http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-200359 Ed Silverman Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:59:25 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-200359 Hi Nathan, Thanks, Nathan. I try. As an aside, I've no idea why the site folded and I'm still not sure who was really behind it (despite the post made by the alleged editor). Perhaps that's a good story for another day. In any event, the kind words are appreciated. Cheers ed Hi Nathan,

Thanks, Nathan. I try. As an aside, I’ve no idea why the site folded and I’m still not sure who was really behind it (despite the post made by the alleged editor). Perhaps that’s a good story for another day. In any event, the kind words are appreciated.

Cheers
ed

]]> By: Nathan http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-200144 Nathan Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:13:45 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-200144 It looks like the "Bigpharmarealpeople" web site went out of buisness. Oh well... Nice try! I guess at the end of the day people (even inside the industry) are more attracted to real journalism rather than to one-sided opinion sites. Ed, nice job keeping both "sides" of the pharma wars engaged in news and debate! It looks like the “Bigpharmarealpeople” web site went out of buisness. Oh well… Nice try! I guess at the end of the day people (even inside the industry) are more attracted to real journalism rather than to one-sided opinion sites.
Ed, nice job keeping both “sides” of the pharma wars engaged in news and debate!

]]> By: Big Pharma to go on the Offensive » The Obama Campaigner http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-90499 Big Pharma to go on the Offensive » The Obama Campaigner Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:51:33 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-90499 [...] for three Big Pharma Companies over the past 30 years. Blogging over at Pharmalot, Ed Silverman challenges the front group to disclose its sponsorship and backing: One other thing, Scott. Since you chose not to answer any of our messages directly, we [...] [...] for three Big Pharma Companies over the past 30 years. Blogging over at Pharmalot, Ed Silverman challenges the front group to disclose its sponsorship and backing: One other thing, Scott. Since you chose not to answer any of our messages directly, we [...]

]]> By: Big Pharma goes bizarre with “enemies list” « Later On http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-90371 Big Pharma goes bizarre with “enemies list” « Later On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:56:41 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-90371 [...] for three Big Pharma Companies over the past 30 years. Blogging over at Pharmalot, Ed Silverman challenges the front group to disclose its sponsorship and backing: One other thing, Scott. Since you chose not to answer any of our messages directly, we [...] [...] for three Big Pharma Companies over the past 30 years. Blogging over at Pharmalot, Ed Silverman challenges the front group to disclose its sponsorship and backing: One other thing, Scott. Since you chose not to answer any of our messages directly, we [...]

]]> By: Think Progress » Big Pharma Front Group Launches Anonymous Blog To Publish An ‘Enemies List’ http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-90341 Think Progress » Big Pharma Front Group Launches Anonymous Blog To Publish An ‘Enemies List’ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:31:01 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-90341 [...] for three Big Pharma Companies over the past 30 years. Blogging over at Pharmalot, Ed Silverman challenges the front group to disclose its sponsorship and backing: One other thing, Scott. Since you chose not to answer any of our messages directly, we [...] [...] for three Big Pharma Companies over the past 30 years. Blogging over at Pharmalot, Ed Silverman challenges the front group to disclose its sponsorship and backing: One other thing, Scott. Since you chose not to answer any of our messages directly, we [...]

]]> By: Big Pharma Employee http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84637 Big Pharma Employee Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:27:37 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84637 BPW. Having insight as both a health care provider and also in sales/marketing for the last 20+ years offers an interesting vantage point. Many medicines the have come to market over the last 20 years have improved and/or saved lives and should be applauded. But, since the late 90's the quest for money has left patient care behind to fend for itself in too many instances. Most unfortunately some cases have been oversight and ignorance but others have been carefully orchestrated from the very top of the organization to dupe the FDA, providers, and their patients with the ultimate goal to increase profit margins no matter what the cost. BPW. Having insight as both a health care provider and also in sales/marketing for the last 20+ years offers an interesting vantage point. Many medicines the have come to market over the last 20 years have improved and/or saved lives and should be applauded. But, since the late 90’s the quest for money has left patient care behind to fend for itself in too many instances. Most unfortunately some cases have been oversight and ignorance but others have been carefully orchestrated from the very top of the organization to dupe the FDA, providers, and their patients with the ultimate goal to increase profit margins no matter what the cost.

]]> By: John Mack http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84067 John Mack Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:21:51 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84067 I think Drug Wonks is behind it -- see "Big Pharma, "Real" People, Wonkers?" at http://pharmablogosphere.blogspot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-wonkers.html I think Drug Wonks is behind it — see “Big Pharma, “Real” People, Wonkers?” at http://pharmablogosphere.blogspot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-wonkers.html

]]> By: eDrugSearch Blog » Blog Archive » BigPharmaRealBS http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84022 eDrugSearch Blog » Blog Archive » BigPharmaRealBS Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:09:09 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84022 [...] BigPharmaRealBS PRWeek writes about “some chatter about a new blog launched to defend the pharmaceutical industry called BigPharmaRealPeople.” Here’s the blog’s alleged story and here’s Ed Silverman’s take on it. [...] [...] BigPharmaRealBS PRWeek writes about “some chatter about a new blog launched to defend the pharmaceutical industry called BigPharmaRealPeople.” Here’s the blog’s alleged story and here’s Ed Silverman’s take on it. [...]

]]> By: Justice in Michigan http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84019 Justice in Michigan Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:08:26 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84019 Just on the point about media coverage, it is clearly wrong that we don't hear about "miracle drugs" all the time. Tim Johnson called the statins that an ABC Nightly News just a few weeks ago. (re: primary prevention, there's probably contention on that, but not the point here). Coming from academia, I totally agree that - across the board - there is at least as much (probably more) integrity among people who work in pharma as in academia and most other sectors. As is also the case with FDA, it's a few key decision-makers that can create big trouble when there is big trouble. As far as all the good things pharma does - that's the point! It creates that much more responsibility when people want and need to depend on an industry. When an academic messes up, most people could care less! Just on the point about media coverage, it is clearly wrong that we don’t hear about “miracle drugs” all the time. Tim Johnson called the statins that an ABC Nightly News just a few weeks ago. (re: primary prevention, there’s probably contention on that, but not the point here).

Coming from academia, I totally agree that - across the board - there is at least as much (probably more) integrity among people who work in pharma as in academia and most other sectors. As is also the case with FDA, it’s a few key decision-makers that can create big trouble when there is big trouble.

As far as all the good things pharma does - that’s the point! It creates that much more responsibility when people want and need to depend on an industry. When an academic messes up, most people could care less!

]]> By: Pharma Giles http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84013 Pharma Giles Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:03:26 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/big-pharma-real-people-bitter-web-site/#comment-84013 For what it's worth, I think the site is pure pharmaparody of the best kind; that is, the kind that you can't be sure whether it's serious or not. Big Pharma/Real People is the Spinal Tap of pharmablogs. Its line is so rabid that it just has to be a parody of blogs like Drug Wonks or some PhRMA publications. I think it's a great indictment of some of the so-called "balanced" pro-pharma web-sites that are around. I love it and just wish I'd thought of the idea myself. For what it’s worth, I think the site is pure pharmaparody of the best kind; that is, the kind that you can’t be sure whether it’s serious or not. Big Pharma/Real People is the Spinal Tap of pharmablogs. Its line is so rabid that it just has to be a parody of blogs like Drug Wonks or some PhRMA publications.

I think it’s a great indictment of some of the so-called “balanced” pro-pharma web-sites that are around. I love it and just wish I’d thought of the idea myself.

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