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	<title>Comments on: Cleveland Clinic Contradicts Nissen Over Vytorin?</title>
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		<title>By: Truthman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-125661</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree with a lot of what you say but easy access to a keyboard, no editorial oversight nor any particular credentials to be communicating with the entire world doesn’t mean what we are fed is all accurate.

Well thats exactly the point i was making... 
For far too long corporations could spin and market whatever way they liked.. 
But with the internet , people can do their own research and possibly discover that the reality is far different than what is advertised...

The internet has brought more balance, and more voices can be heard, which in my opinion can only be a good thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree with a lot of what you say but easy access to a keyboard, no editorial oversight nor any particular credentials to be communicating with the entire world doesn’t mean what we are fed is all accurate.</p>
<p>Well thats exactly the point i was making&#8230;<br />
For far too long corporations could spin and market whatever way they liked..<br />
But with the internet , people can do their own research and possibly discover that the reality is far different than what is advertised&#8230;</p>
<p>The internet has brought more balance, and more voices can be heard, which in my opinion can only be a good thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-125582</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truthman - I agree with a lot of what you say but easy access to a keyboard, no editorial oversight nor any particular credentials to be communicating with the entire world doesn't mean what we are fed is all accurate. There's a place in Hde Park in London, called Speaker's Corner. Anybody can bring their ownm soapbox, steps whatever, and get up and speak. There are some very lucid speakers and there are some fruitcakes. It doesn't mean any of them are right, so I think we need to be more discerning when we read opinions, exclusives, revelations on the internet and not take them at face value. 

And Ed, this is Chris the first - not sure how the other Chris got to use the same name. We occasionally differ in opinion (not that many read what I post anyway) but I suppose the readers are all pretty discerning themselves.
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truthman - I agree with a lot of what you say but easy access to a keyboard, no editorial oversight nor any particular credentials to be communicating with the entire world doesn&#8217;t mean what we are fed is all accurate. There&#8217;s a place in Hde Park in London, called Speaker&#8217;s Corner. Anybody can bring their ownm soapbox, steps whatever, and get up and speak. There are some very lucid speakers and there are some fruitcakes. It doesn&#8217;t mean any of them are right, so I think we need to be more discerning when we read opinions, exclusives, revelations on the internet and not take them at face value. </p>
<p>And Ed, this is Chris the first - not sure how the other Chris got to use the same name. We occasionally differ in opinion (not that many read what I post anyway) but I suppose the readers are all pretty discerning themselves.<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: truthman</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no comment to make on the article.. Apart from maybe.. Don't dis the doctor Nissen....

but seriously... 

What inspires me about sites such as pharmalot and (of course the wonderful Dr Rost and his blog) is the reflection of the tides and how they are turning.... 

With the advent of the unexpected and fantastic internet revolution , Big Pharma can no longer dupe the public, Its propaganda will always be dissolved and disected by someone (somewhere) who has the balls and humanistic integrity to disect the truth from the fallacy... 

No one expected the internet and the worldwideweb to become the empowering and revolutionary force which it has bceome today..
And Like a modern day Oracle, people turn to the Net as a source of truth,..
Everyone "googles" information, people have become their own researchers...
The corporate agenda can't compete on the internet..
And stuff can't be hidden... 
We can bypass mainstream media...
Bad shit can't hide in this age... 
I love it.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no comment to make on the article.. Apart from maybe.. Don&#8217;t dis the doctor Nissen&#8230;.</p>
<p>but seriously&#8230; </p>
<p>What inspires me about sites such as pharmalot and (of course the wonderful Dr Rost and his blog) is the reflection of the tides and how they are turning&#8230;. </p>
<p>With the advent of the unexpected and fantastic internet revolution , Big Pharma can no longer dupe the public, Its propaganda will always be dissolved and disected by someone (somewhere) who has the balls and humanistic integrity to disect the truth from the fallacy&#8230; </p>
<p>No one expected the internet and the worldwideweb to become the empowering and revolutionary force which it has bceome today..<br />
And Like a modern day Oracle, people turn to the Net as a source of truth,..<br />
Everyone &#8220;googles&#8221; information, people have become their own researchers&#8230;<br />
The corporate agenda can&#8217;t compete on the internet..<br />
And stuff can&#8217;t be hidden&#8230;<br />
We can bypass mainstream media&#8230;<br />
Bad shit can&#8217;t hide in this age&#8230;<br />
I love it.. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Van S</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-123785</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Van S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BP Watch,

Thought it was best to provide a link, and allow the Dr's words speak for themselves. On another note, My Mother, and Mother-in-law rcvd excellent Cardiac Care at Somerset Medical Center!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BP Watch,</p>
<p>Thought it was best to provide a link, and allow the Dr&#8217;s words speak for themselves. On another note, My Mother, and Mother-in-law rcvd excellent Cardiac Care at Somerset Medical Center!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-123732</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi BP Watch,

Please don't misunderstand me. I agree that everyone should speak with a physician before making a decision or taking a next step. My last comment referred to what the Clinic didn't say in its statement.

Hope this helps,
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi BP Watch,</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t misunderstand me. I agree that everyone should speak with a physician before making a decision or taking a next step. My last comment referred to what the Clinic didn&#8217;t say in its statement.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,<br />
ed</p>
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		<title>By: BP Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-123727</link>
		<dc:creator>BP Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the Letter to the Editor.  It provides good sound advice to patients who take the drugs.  DO NOT STOP them and consult with your personal physician.  He/She is the one to advise you regarding your individual health, not the news media or an opinion leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the Letter to the Editor.  It provides good sound advice to patients who take the drugs.  DO NOT STOP them and consult with your personal physician.  He/She is the one to advise you regarding your individual health, not the news media or an opinion leader.</p>
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		<title>By: BP Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-123721</link>
		<dc:creator>BP Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

What's the web site for the newspaper?  If not known, could you summarize?

Thanks,

BP Watch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the web site for the newspaper?  If not known, could you summarize?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>BP Watch</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-123720</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Folks,

A couple of quick points. I understand that Steve Nissen may have spoken as an individual, and I agree the Clinic has every right to express an institutional viewpoint. Moreover, I'm not saying Nissen was right or wrong, or making a judgement about the Clinic's advice.

But there was a disconnect - the statement stops way short of the conclusion Nissen propagated. Despite its protests about its position on the meds, the Clinic doesn't say the meds should be used only as a last resort. So I used a question mark in the headline to suggest a contradiction may exist.  

Beyond that, this topic is open for discussion, so I'm glad you've all shown up.

cheers
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Folks,</p>
<p>A couple of quick points. I understand that Steve Nissen may have spoken as an individual, and I agree the Clinic has every right to express an institutional viewpoint. Moreover, I&#8217;m not saying Nissen was right or wrong, or making a judgement about the Clinic&#8217;s advice.</p>
<p>But there was a disconnect - the statement stops way short of the conclusion Nissen propagated. Despite its protests about its position on the meds, the Clinic doesn&#8217;t say the meds should be used only as a last resort. So I used a question mark in the headline to suggest a contradiction may exist.  </p>
<p>Beyond that, this topic is open for discussion, so I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve all shown up.</p>
<p>cheers<br />
ed</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Van S</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-123710</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Van S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ED,

Courier News: Investigate Further before heeding Study
Steven Georgeson
Chief of Cardiology
Somerset Medical Center

http://www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080130/OPINION02/801300323/1010</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ED,</p>
<p>Courier News: Investigate Further before heeding Study<br />
Steven Georgeson<br />
Chief of Cardiology<br />
Somerset Medical Center</p>
<p><a href="http://www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080130/OPINION02/801300323/1010" rel="nofollow">http://www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080130/OPINION02/801300323/1010</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Van S</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/cleveland-clinic-contradicts-nissen-over-vytorin/#comment-123629</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Van S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

Somerset Medical Center's, Chief of Cardiology, sent a letter to the Editor, his comments can be found on the Opinion Page of the Courier News. I found it to be an interesting read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>Somerset Medical Center&#8217;s, Chief of Cardiology, sent a letter to the Editor, his comments can be found on the Opinion Page of the Courier News. I found it to be an interesting read.</p>
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