Comments on: DC Councilman: Why Reps Should Be Licensed http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:49:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Brian http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-101302 Brian Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:51:29 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-101302 Joan You are fairly unreasonable. Who will you allow to tell doctors about FDA approved medicines that helps most folks and harms few.. Doctors over see the death of many folks over their career. Does that mean they should not treat the rest? What does a doctor do for a patient besides give them a pill or perform surgery? "First do no harm" means someone drops dead alone. Is this also immoral?. You should not be calling anyone who is genuinely trying to help “immoral” unless you are exhibiting a higher morality.... and that doesn't mean watching them die with a clear conscience. Joan

You are fairly unreasonable. Who will you allow to tell doctors about FDA approved medicines that helps most folks and harms few..

Doctors over see the death of many folks over their career. Does that mean they should not treat the rest? What does a doctor do for a patient besides give them a pill or perform surgery? “First do no harm” means someone drops dead alone. Is this also immoral?. You should not be calling anyone who is genuinely trying to help “immoral” unless you are exhibiting a higher morality…. and that doesn’t mean watching them die with a clear conscience.

]]> By: Joan http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-101291 Joan Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:32:00 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-101291 I see a few overpaid, immoral people whining here, afraid they won´´t make their numbers with the docs. These ex-cheerleaders should have a meeting with some of the families whose family members, mainly children, have been killed by typical culprits such as those in the psychotropic family. One reason I like the group of young doctors pledging not to see reps or put up their junk in their offices is that they will do their own homework and search for real risk-benefit instead of listening to the load of ---- doled out by drug reps. I hope their number grows. I see a few overpaid, immoral people whining here, afraid they won´´t make their numbers with the docs. These ex-cheerleaders should have a meeting with some of the families whose family members, mainly children, have been killed by typical culprits such as those in the psychotropic family. One reason I like the group of young doctors pledging not to see reps or put up their junk in their offices is that they will do their own homework and search for real risk-benefit instead of listening to the load of —- doled out by drug reps. I hope their number grows.

]]> By: Prescription Project » Blog Archive » RxP Weekly Reader http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-91847 Prescription Project » Blog Archive » RxP Weekly Reader Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:55:06 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-91847 [...] SafeRx Act passed a second city council vote to become law in the District of Columbia this week. The law, which would license pharmaceutical representatives and impose penalties for misleading remarks made in sales pitches to doctors, is the first of its kind in the U.S. It was shepherded through by Councilmember David Catania (I - at-large), who also serves as the president of the National Legislative Association to Reduce Drug Prices.   Read more about it in the Washington Business Journal, (buried in) the Washington Post, and an interview with Catania at Pharmalot. [...] [...] SafeRx Act passed a second city council vote to become law in the District of Columbia this week. The law, which would license pharmaceutical representatives and impose penalties for misleading remarks made in sales pitches to doctors, is the first of its kind in the U.S. It was shepherded through by Councilmember David Catania (I - at-large), who also serves as the president of the National Legislative Association to Reduce Drug Prices.   Read more about it in the Washington Business Journal, (buried in) the Washington Post, and an interview with Catania at Pharmalot. [...]

]]> By: DAB http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-91455 DAB Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:04:00 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-91455 The notion that 800,000 licensed professionals, all who have sworn an oath in their state, and the benficiaries of 20 years of our educational system can be bought off by a couple of cute 24 year old kids fresh out of college with a marketing degree and a handful of drug pens is absurd. If, on the other hand, that is true, then someone should be gravely concerned about the practitioners, not the reps. No one would suggest that the Industry didn't go to far in their past promotional frenzy, but this is not the Last Temptation of Christ, this is schmoozing for business, and its so obvious and out in the open that its hard to believe that physicians would be dupped into harming any of the patients they have sworn to help over social trivialities. Far more dangerous to healthcare is an "entreprenurial" physician on a milk route of a speaking tour distorting safety data and making recommendations to use products- this is physicians talking to physicians, peer to peer- a busy doctor just might listen to that, but to think that a rep will have the same influence is just wrong. The notion that 800,000 licensed professionals, all who have sworn an oath in their state, and the benficiaries of 20 years of our educational system can be bought off by a couple of cute 24 year old kids fresh out of college with a marketing degree and a handful of drug pens is absurd. If, on the other hand, that is true, then someone should be gravely concerned about the practitioners, not the reps.

No one would suggest that the Industry didn’t go to far in their past promotional frenzy, but this is not the Last Temptation of Christ, this is schmoozing for business, and its so obvious and out in the open that its hard to believe that physicians would be dupped into harming any of the patients they have sworn to help over social trivialities.

Far more dangerous to healthcare is an “entreprenurial” physician on a milk route of a speaking tour distorting safety data and making recommendations to use products- this is physicians talking to physicians, peer to peer- a busy doctor just might listen to that, but to think that a rep will have the same influence is just wrong.

]]> By: EEJ http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90519 EEJ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:18:48 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90519 Let's also not forget that your doctor prescribing you the meds that are newest on the market but not that much better than the "older" alternatives is somewhat responsible as well. I appreciate that my doc has a "no reps" policy, but frequently attends educational activities and appears to read up on current trends and new medicines. Let’s also not forget that your doctor prescribing you the meds that are newest on the market but not that much better than the “older” alternatives is somewhat responsible as well.

I appreciate that my doc has a “no reps” policy, but frequently attends educational activities and appears to read up on current trends and new medicines.

]]> By: Sorrowful http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90516 Sorrowful Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:09:32 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90516 I hope that Mr. Catania and the D.C. Council start a trend that will clean up a dirty industry, one that ends up killing and maiming for profit. States should step forward with this and other measures, as the federal agency that is to protect our public health, has been bought by the industry. I hope that Mr. Catania and the D.C. Council start a trend that will clean up a dirty industry, one that ends up killing and maiming for profit. States should step forward with this and other measures, as the federal agency that is to protect our public health, has been bought by the industry.

]]> By: DAB http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90493 DAB Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:45:35 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90493 This must be a stopgap measure to replace reduced parking fines for DC; its about time DC got their fair share of the big pharma money- who's next into the lunch box. I would guess the number of reps in pharma without a college degree is nearly zero at this point in time. What an outrageous suggestion- physicians don't have anywhere to go to report off-label detailing; I guess the FDA, OIG, CMS, State Professional Boards, and State Attorney's General investigations were channeled the spirit world. No one mentioned the preemption clause. This must be a stopgap measure to replace reduced parking fines for DC; its about time DC got their fair share of the big pharma money- who’s next into the lunch box.

I would guess the number of reps in pharma without a college degree is nearly zero at this point in time.

What an outrageous suggestion- physicians don’t have anywhere to go to report off-label detailing; I guess the FDA, OIG, CMS, State Professional Boards, and State Attorney’s General investigations were channeled the spirit world.

No one mentioned the preemption clause.

]]> By: GATC http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90385 GATC Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:03:41 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90385 Same old libtard sillyness. If only the DC government was as concerned about their own employees; see: http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/FedCrimes/story?id=4038609 Same old libtard sillyness. If only the DC government was as concerned about their own employees; see:
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/FedCrimes/story?id=4038609

]]> By: Jack2 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90384 Jack2 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:03:40 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/01/dc-councilman-why-reps-should-be-licensed/#comment-90384 I pay about $250 for my pharmacy liscense. I would imagine industry would need to pay this fee for existing reps. I pay about $250 for my pharmacy liscense. I would imagine industry would need to pay this fee for existing reps.

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