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	<title>Comments on: Drug Prices Rose 7.4 Percent On Widely Used Meds</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AARP has responded. This is what John Rother, the policy director, wrote me this morning:

"This probably deserves a more detailed rebuttal, but as an overall response I would say the 'anonymous' critic is completely off base.

The drugs analyzed were very carefully selected to be the ones both heavily prescribed. The inclusion of those with generic substitutes just makes the point about how marketing still seems to dominate competition on price. Patients on those two branded drugs experienced cost increases, not decreases, because we used most commonly prescribed as our selection basis. Of course, we promote generic substitution. The industry hasn’t offered a persuasive explanation of why branded drugs whose patents expire have their prices increased.

AARP does not consider financial impact on the United Healthcare Part D plan in any of our policy work or analysis. Anyone who knows us understands that there is a firewall between our policy operations and anything that produces revenue. We believe prices should be 'forced' lower, not to increase United’s profit, but to make drugs and the Part D premiums more affordable.

The 'anonymous' critic seems to take the position that simply documenting price increases is somehow a self-interested activity. On the contrary, we believe that prices of pharmaceuticals in the U.S. are too high by any standard, certainly in comparison to prices elsewhere, and that these price trends are unsustainable if continued.  Putting pressure on the industry to explain its pricing behavior is, we believe, in the public interest.  We await a more constructive and substantive response."

Again, this was sent to my own e-mail by John Rother, the AARP policy director. And I posted his remarks with his knowledge.

Thoughts anyone?

Regards
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AARP has responded. This is what John Rother, the policy director, wrote me this morning:</p>
<p>&#8220;This probably deserves a more detailed rebuttal, but as an overall response I would say the &#8216;anonymous&#8217; critic is completely off base.</p>
<p>The drugs analyzed were very carefully selected to be the ones both heavily prescribed. The inclusion of those with generic substitutes just makes the point about how marketing still seems to dominate competition on price. Patients on those two branded drugs experienced cost increases, not decreases, because we used most commonly prescribed as our selection basis. Of course, we promote generic substitution. The industry hasn’t offered a persuasive explanation of why branded drugs whose patents expire have their prices increased.</p>
<p>AARP does not consider financial impact on the United Healthcare Part D plan in any of our policy work or analysis. Anyone who knows us understands that there is a firewall between our policy operations and anything that produces revenue. We believe prices should be &#8216;forced&#8217; lower, not to increase United’s profit, but to make drugs and the Part D premiums more affordable.</p>
<p>The &#8216;anonymous&#8217; critic seems to take the position that simply documenting price increases is somehow a self-interested activity. On the contrary, we believe that prices of pharmaceuticals in the U.S. are too high by any standard, certainly in comparison to prices elsewhere, and that these price trends are unsustainable if continued.  Putting pressure on the industry to explain its pricing behavior is, we believe, in the public interest.  We await a more constructive and substantive response.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, this was sent to my own e-mail by John Rother, the AARP policy director. And I posted his remarks with his knowledge.</p>
<p>Thoughts anyone?</p>
<p>Regards<br />
ed</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/03/drug-prices-rose-74-percent-on-widely-used-meds/#comment-191058</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Everyone,

I have reached out to AARP's John Rother, and a press person there, several times by e-mail and phone today and, unfortunately, I've not yet received a reply. I also invited him to post a comment. It's still possible he will respond. I've dealt with Rother numerous times over the years and, like you, I am curious to see what, if anything comes back in the face of the comments several of you have made.

Regards
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone,</p>
<p>I have reached out to AARP&#8217;s John Rother, and a press person there, several times by e-mail and phone today and, unfortunately, I&#8217;ve not yet received a reply. I also invited him to post a comment. It&#8217;s still possible he will respond. I&#8217;ve dealt with Rother numerous times over the years and, like you, I am curious to see what, if anything comes back in the face of the comments several of you have made.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
ed</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/03/drug-prices-rose-74-percent-on-widely-used-meds/#comment-191046</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack2 and Atlex, agree with both of you that the methodology is flawed and, at best, is more of a qualitative trend.

It is also important to remember that rebate contracts with Managed care organizations and wholesalers' ability to anticipate price increases means that the manufacturer cannot realize the price increase until contracts expire or wholesalers deplete their stocks.

On a 3% increase,  I would guess that perhaps 1.6% is actually booked in the near-term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack2 and Atlex, agree with both of you that the methodology is flawed and, at best, is more of a qualitative trend.</p>
<p>It is also important to remember that rebate contracts with Managed care organizations and wholesalers&#8217; ability to anticipate price increases means that the manufacturer cannot realize the price increase until contracts expire or wholesalers deplete their stocks.</p>
<p>On a 3% increase,  I would guess that perhaps 1.6% is actually booked in the near-term.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack2</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/03/drug-prices-rose-74-percent-on-widely-used-meds/#comment-191014</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Atlex.  

Plus, the average increase on all the drugs is nearly a useless number.  The increase should be weighted by sales.  A price increase on a drug with total sales of $50 million shouldn't count as much as an increase on a drug that sells for $1 billion.  The chart lists the 25 most frequent drugs.  Did the study weigh their data by sales?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Atlex.  </p>
<p>Plus, the average increase on all the drugs is nearly a useless number.  The increase should be weighted by sales.  A price increase on a drug with total sales of $50 million shouldn&#8217;t count as much as an increase on a drug that sells for $1 billion.  The chart lists the 25 most frequent drugs.  Did the study weigh their data by sales?</p>
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		<title>By: Grieving</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grieving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess AARP still has a guilty conscience for supporting the drug bill, after which I gave up my membership forever.  However, it is true the Phrmas raise prices whenever and wherever they can.  After all the bad publicity over Zyprexa,  Lilly's atypical antipsychotic that killed my son (and is now killing children and seniors with dementia off label) sales dropped.  So what did Lilly do?  Well, of course, they raised the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess AARP still has a guilty conscience for supporting the drug bill, after which I gave up my membership forever.  However, it is true the Phrmas raise prices whenever and wherever they can.  After all the bad publicity over Zyprexa,  Lilly&#8217;s atypical antipsychotic that killed my son (and is now killing children and seniors with dementia off label) sales dropped.  So what did Lilly do?  Well, of course, they raised the price.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Atlex' makes an excellent point.  Furthermore, AARP and their litigation division appear to be two faced cowards in the following affair, which was brought to their attention last year.  Dr. C.E. Haley, a medical director of Trailblazer Medicare, improperly denied access to therapy (via denied funding) for Ibandronate i.v. (Boniva) on label for osteoporosis patients. This may have caused injury, pain, disability, and in some cases death for large numbers of beneficiaries. He was reversed in a fully favorable decision for our patient by the Administrative Law Judge in Florida.  No thanks to AARP.  Trailblazer has gained enhanced power and controls additional states since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Atlex&#8217; makes an excellent point.  Furthermore, AARP and their litigation division appear to be two faced cowards in the following affair, which was brought to their attention last year.  Dr. C.E. Haley, a medical director of Trailblazer Medicare, improperly denied access to therapy (via denied funding) for Ibandronate i.v. (Boniva) on label for osteoporosis patients. This may have caused injury, pain, disability, and in some cases death for large numbers of beneficiaries. He was reversed in a fully favorable decision for our patient by the Administrative Law Judge in Florida.  No thanks to AARP.  Trailblazer has gained enhanced power and controls additional states since then.</p>
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		<title>By: Atlex</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/03/drug-prices-rose-74-percent-on-widely-used-meds/#comment-189975</link>
		<dc:creator>Atlex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This study has huge flaws.  The two drugs among the top 25 with the greatest increases (Ambien and Norvasc)are both available generically.  Thus, the vast majority patients (&#62;90%) on either drug experienced a cost decrease of 50% to 80%.  AARP intentionally ignores this so it can grab headlines.  Not only do the headlines help AARP to advance its political agenda, it also stands to benefit financially since it has a financial interest in the largest Medicare drug plan.  Thus, if it can force prices lower, the plan that it is associated with stands to profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This study has huge flaws.  The two drugs among the top 25 with the greatest increases (Ambien and Norvasc)are both available generically.  Thus, the vast majority patients (&gt;90%) on either drug experienced a cost decrease of 50% to 80%.  AARP intentionally ignores this so it can grab headlines.  Not only do the headlines help AARP to advance its political agenda, it also stands to benefit financially since it has a financial interest in the largest Medicare drug plan.  Thus, if it can force prices lower, the plan that it is associated with stands to profit.</p>
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		<title>By: harry harrinordiquy</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/03/drug-prices-rose-74-percent-on-widely-used-meds/#comment-189959</link>
		<dc:creator>harry harrinordiquy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Big pharma can’t rip any other countries off because they’re are price controls in most areas. So, they rip off America instead!"

well, the other way of looking at that is that the US funds global R&#38;D and subsidises other markets because they arent willing to invest sufficiently in healthcare.

These AARP reports need to be placed in perspective - they measure list prices and not the 'real' price paid, which factors in discounts. Companies need to keep list prices high because the US remains a popular reference country in other markets like Canada, japan and South Korea. It's the real price that counts and AARP tells us nothing about that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Big pharma can’t rip any other countries off because they’re are price controls in most areas. So, they rip off America instead!&#8221;</p>
<p>well, the other way of looking at that is that the US funds global R&amp;D and subsidises other markets because they arent willing to invest sufficiently in healthcare.</p>
<p>These AARP reports need to be placed in perspective - they measure list prices and not the &#8216;real&#8217; price paid, which factors in discounts. Companies need to keep list prices high because the US remains a popular reference country in other markets like Canada, japan and South Korea. It&#8217;s the real price that counts and AARP tells us nothing about that</p>
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		<title>By: MDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big pharma can't rip any other countries off because they're are price controls in most areas.  So, they rip off America instead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big pharma can&#8217;t rip any other countries off because they&#8217;re are price controls in most areas.  So, they rip off America instead!</p>
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		<title>By: www.worldpharmanews.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.worldpharmanews.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pharmalot » Drug Prices Rose 7.4 Percent On Widely Used Meds...&lt;/strong&gt;

AARP's Public Policy Institute finds that price increases for brand name drugs have far outstripped the price increases for other consumer goods and services between 2002 and 2007; this is consistent with the pattern that we have seen since initiating...</description>
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<p>AARP&#8217;s Public Policy Institute finds that price increases for brand name drugs have far outstripped the price increases for other consumer goods and services between 2002 and 2007; this is consistent with the pattern that we have seen since initiating&#8230;</p>
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