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		<title>By: Former SP</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-311938</link>
		<dc:creator>Former SP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that all this stuff gets dug up by Congress and the OIG.  They will be shocked at what they find in Kenilworth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that all this stuff gets dug up by Congress and the OIG.  They will be shocked at what they find in Kenilworth!</p>
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		<title>By: Christy</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-310804</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh what a tangled web has been woven!  As has been commonly said, "The appearance of impropriety is impropriety!"  There seems to be quite a bit of appearance in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh what a tangled web has been woven!  As has been commonly said, &#8220;The appearance of impropriety is impropriety!&#8221;  There seems to be quite a bit of appearance in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-308032</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that there is no end to the shennanigans coming from Kenilworth.  I think that Schering-Plough is all about the absolute worst that Big Pharma has to offer in 2008.  Their executives should be ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that there is no end to the shennanigans coming from Kenilworth.  I think that Schering-Plough is all about the absolute worst that Big Pharma has to offer in 2008.  Their executives should be ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-304009</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the note below was posted on the wrong item:

April 21st, 2008 at 4:32 pm andy
How Ezetimibe (Zetia) was tested:

(CHERYL CORNACCHIA The Gazette Tuesday, February 24, 2004):

‘When a company contacted Colin Rose and offered to pay him $6,000 to refer patients to a drug study, they had the wrong doctor. Rose, a cardiologist at the Montreal General Hospital, not only said no, but he passed the written offer to the College des Medecins du Quebec, suggesting it investigate the ethics of paying doctors to refer patients. ‘

I’m about the last one on Earth they should have contacted,’ Rose said yesterday. It turns out that the physicians’ college doesn’t investigate those kinds of cases, but the doctor is no less upset by the offer to send patients to the study, which was sponsored by Merck Frosst. Rose, who is also an assistant professor of medicine at McGill University, is outspoken about what he sees as an increasingly cozy relationship between doctors and drug companies. He says it undermines doctors’ will to suggest alternatives like lifestyle changes instead of prescription drugs.

The hypercholesterolemia and coronary heart disease study to which Rose referred is being conducted by the Clinical Research Consultant Group at the Seaforth Medical Building on Cte des Neiges Rd. The group’s letter to Rose, dated Nov. 18, 2003, detailed how he would receive an honorarium of $6,000 if he referred at least one patient being treated for high cholesterol and heart disease. He would have been required to perform a physical exam of the patients at the beginning and end of the study and write the initial prescription. ‘

Nurses employed by the group would do the rest - seeing patients throughout the 12-week study. The study is evaluating the cholesterol-lowering efficacy of a 10-milligram dose of a drug called Ezetimibe when given with a 10-milligram or 20-milligram dose of Atorvastatin, another cholesterol-lowering drug. Both drugs are approved for use in Canada.

Rose later received an e-mail from Bernice Pynn, the lead researcher of the drug study, saying ‘at this time there is no discussion of publication’ of the study results. Pynn, a biochemist, was unavailable for comment yesterday. However, an assistant at the clinical research group confirmed the multisite study is sponsored by Merck Frosst. So far, she said, 15 patients are enrolled in Montreal. Vincent Lamoureux, a spokesperson for Merck Frosst in Kirkland, said doctors are sometimes compensated for their time. However, he said, he was unfamiliar with the study Rose cited, even though ‘there definitely seems to be a link to some of what we do.’

Copyright 2004 Montreal Gazette</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the note below was posted on the wrong item:</p>
<p>April 21st, 2008 at 4:32 pm andy<br />
How Ezetimibe (Zetia) was tested:</p>
<p>(CHERYL CORNACCHIA The Gazette Tuesday, February 24, 2004):</p>
<p>‘When a company contacted Colin Rose and offered to pay him $6,000 to refer patients to a drug study, they had the wrong doctor. Rose, a cardiologist at the Montreal General Hospital, not only said no, but he passed the written offer to the College des Medecins du Quebec, suggesting it investigate the ethics of paying doctors to refer patients. ‘</p>
<p>I’m about the last one on Earth they should have contacted,’ Rose said yesterday. It turns out that the physicians’ college doesn’t investigate those kinds of cases, but the doctor is no less upset by the offer to send patients to the study, which was sponsored by Merck Frosst. Rose, who is also an assistant professor of medicine at McGill University, is outspoken about what he sees as an increasingly cozy relationship between doctors and drug companies. He says it undermines doctors’ will to suggest alternatives like lifestyle changes instead of prescription drugs.</p>
<p>The hypercholesterolemia and coronary heart disease study to which Rose referred is being conducted by the Clinical Research Consultant Group at the Seaforth Medical Building on Cte des Neiges Rd. The group’s letter to Rose, dated Nov. 18, 2003, detailed how he would receive an honorarium of $6,000 if he referred at least one patient being treated for high cholesterol and heart disease. He would have been required to perform a physical exam of the patients at the beginning and end of the study and write the initial prescription. ‘</p>
<p>Nurses employed by the group would do the rest - seeing patients throughout the 12-week study. The study is evaluating the cholesterol-lowering efficacy of a 10-milligram dose of a drug called Ezetimibe when given with a 10-milligram or 20-milligram dose of Atorvastatin, another cholesterol-lowering drug. Both drugs are approved for use in Canada.</p>
<p>Rose later received an e-mail from Bernice Pynn, the lead researcher of the drug study, saying ‘at this time there is no discussion of publication’ of the study results. Pynn, a biochemist, was unavailable for comment yesterday. However, an assistant at the clinical research group confirmed the multisite study is sponsored by Merck Frosst. So far, she said, 15 patients are enrolled in Montreal. Vincent Lamoureux, a spokesperson for Merck Frosst in Kirkland, said doctors are sometimes compensated for their time. However, he said, he was unfamiliar with the study Rose cited, even though ‘there definitely seems to be a link to some of what we do.’</p>
<p>Copyright 2004 Montreal Gazette</p>
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		<title>By: Hans-Christian Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-303509</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans-Christian Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just love all of this crying from industry insiders.  As the old saying goes, you live by the sword and you die by the sword.  M-SP has driven the Vytorin/Zetia franchise to dizzying heights through the use of DTC.  Now that the same media with awarded them with these (undeserved, unwarranted ?) riches is bringing them down a notch or two, they are crying foul!!!  FoxNews recently reported the dilemma the network news faces in reporting these stories due to the amount of support they receive from Big Pharma.  You could almost say they are biting the hand that feeds them.  But just as many have questioned here, like it or not, it is the duty of the media to report the information that the public needs to be aware of in a fair balanced nature.  I have yet to notice anywhere that Pharmalot has taken a purely one sided stance on any issue.  I know that some of the pharma blogs have an ax to grind, but Pharmalot seems to maintain a high degree of journalistic integrity.  Granted, every now and again we have a slow news day and the offerings seem a little thin, bordering on the conspiracy theory at times, but you even see this with the conventional news media.

I feel M-SP has clearly created this problem for themselves and have at umerous opportunities to nip this thing in the bud with an admission of error in handling the situation, a tone of contrition but they have remained arrogant if not belligerent in the face of evolving beliefs about cholesterol, cardiac impact, etc.  The recent LA Times article showed that many Drs believed that they may have let Vytorin get out in front of them and were rxing first line when not warranted.  The recent Crestor trial which showed that controlling inflammation in pts with cholesterol scroes too low to warrant statin treatment based on the numbers may dictate that lowering cholesterol is not the "surrogate" for heart disease that M-SP is trying to INFER.  M-SP has received alot of business that is not warranted and now they are crying foul.  I know it may be a stretch for some in the media to say, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SAID.  M-SP is the spoiled brat that needs to be punished and Congress is taking the paddle out now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love all of this crying from industry insiders.  As the old saying goes, you live by the sword and you die by the sword.  M-SP has driven the Vytorin/Zetia franchise to dizzying heights through the use of DTC.  Now that the same media with awarded them with these (undeserved, unwarranted ?) riches is bringing them down a notch or two, they are crying foul!!!  FoxNews recently reported the dilemma the network news faces in reporting these stories due to the amount of support they receive from Big Pharma.  You could almost say they are biting the hand that feeds them.  But just as many have questioned here, like it or not, it is the duty of the media to report the information that the public needs to be aware of in a fair balanced nature.  I have yet to notice anywhere that Pharmalot has taken a purely one sided stance on any issue.  I know that some of the pharma blogs have an ax to grind, but Pharmalot seems to maintain a high degree of journalistic integrity.  Granted, every now and again we have a slow news day and the offerings seem a little thin, bordering on the conspiracy theory at times, but you even see this with the conventional news media.</p>
<p>I feel M-SP has clearly created this problem for themselves and have at umerous opportunities to nip this thing in the bud with an admission of error in handling the situation, a tone of contrition but they have remained arrogant if not belligerent in the face of evolving beliefs about cholesterol, cardiac impact, etc.  The recent LA Times article showed that many Drs believed that they may have let Vytorin get out in front of them and were rxing first line when not warranted.  The recent Crestor trial which showed that controlling inflammation in pts with cholesterol scroes too low to warrant statin treatment based on the numbers may dictate that lowering cholesterol is not the &#8220;surrogate&#8221; for heart disease that M-SP is trying to INFER.  M-SP has received alot of business that is not warranted and now they are crying foul.  I know it may be a stretch for some in the media to say, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SAID.  M-SP is the spoiled brat that needs to be punished and Congress is taking the paddle out now.</p>
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		<title>By: SP 1</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-303227</link>
		<dc:creator>SP 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a big surprise regarding Schering-Plough.  Given the actions of the past 6-12 months, it appears they are incapable of doing anything on the up-and-up!  What a company!  What a collection of execs!  I think others need to strive to be unlike them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a big surprise regarding Schering-Plough.  Given the actions of the past 6-12 months, it appears they are incapable of doing anything on the up-and-up!  What a company!  What a collection of execs!  I think others need to strive to be unlike them!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-303223</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actions of Big Pharma are the reason for their very poor reputation, not the media!  They have an incredibly horrible track record of buying influence and putting profits above all else.  Do do so, they'll bed down with any group that they believe will be able to benefit them.  The AHA, ACC, ADA and others are all suspect because they pull big money out of Big Pharma!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actions of Big Pharma are the reason for their very poor reputation, not the media!  They have an incredibly horrible track record of buying influence and putting profits above all else.  Do do so, they&#8217;ll bed down with any group that they believe will be able to benefit them.  The AHA, ACC, ADA and others are all suspect because they pull big money out of Big Pharma!!</p>
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		<title>By: harpy</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-303130</link>
		<dc:creator>harpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto to CMC guy.  Since when has stating the misdeeds of a company that has admitted committing misdeeds become synonymous with "attacking"?

I think some on this site could use a lesson on &lt;a href="http://www.vandruff.com/art_converse.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;conversational terrorism&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto to CMC guy.  Since when has stating the misdeeds of a company that has admitted committing misdeeds become synonymous with &#8220;attacking&#8221;?</p>
<p>I think some on this site could use a lesson on <a href="http://www.vandruff.com/art_converse.html" rel="nofollow">conversational terrorism</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: CMC guy</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-302255</link>
		<dc:creator>CMC guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed I think you do a fine job with this blog- diverse story content and wide ranging opinions without heavy handed moderation.  As to the appearance of negative perspections of Pharma think are mostly due to reporting frequent self inflicted wounds that don't seem to get learned from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed I think you do a fine job with this blog- diverse story content and wide ranging opinions without heavy handed moderation.  As to the appearance of negative perspections of Pharma think are mostly due to reporting frequent self inflicted wounds that don&#8217;t seem to get learned from.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/schering-plough-and-another-aha-connection/#comment-302173</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

Thanks for the note. And believe it or not, I am open to other opinions. I'm not sure what it is you're referring to when you say you'd like me to be more open to other opinions, to be honest. But here are a few quick thoughts...

I don't shut people down or out from the comments section. And I try to be respectful of the opinions expressed in the comments, even when I may disagree. Generally, though, I stay out of the comments section, unless I feel I have something to offer, there's a need to redirect a thread, or I've been asked or challenged specifically to respond to something. But I don't feel it's my job to ensure any discussion have a particular tone or point of view.

Moreover, I cherish input from all parties when pursuing a story, and want as much as possible to be represented in my posts. If a drugmaker, for example, denies comment, whatever the reason and whatever the story, that's the company's decision. Not mine. But I want those views to be in the mix. Blogs are designed for more open communication than the industry is used to encountering, but it's here to take advantage of, should anyone want. I'd like to see as many views expressed as possible, in fact.

I've also run a couple of guest columns - a sort of op-ed, if you will - and introduced those by noting I'd be open to doing more and invited suggestions. So if someone with legit creds, sufficient stature or unique experience has a suggestion and wants me to consider running something, I'm open to doing so. As I've always said, it's a big pharma world and there's room for all sorts of ideas. 

Running this site is new and challenging. But I remain open to ideas because that's how we learn - you, me and everyone else who stops by here - and while I'll make mistakes from time to time, I have nothing to gain by excluding or rejecting certain opinions or views. 

That's my 1.5 cent, adjusted for the shrinking dollar.

Cheers
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>Thanks for the note. And believe it or not, I am open to other opinions. I&#8217;m not sure what it is you&#8217;re referring to when you say you&#8217;d like me to be more open to other opinions, to be honest. But here are a few quick thoughts&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t shut people down or out from the comments section. And I try to be respectful of the opinions expressed in the comments, even when I may disagree. Generally, though, I stay out of the comments section, unless I feel I have something to offer, there&#8217;s a need to redirect a thread, or I&#8217;ve been asked or challenged specifically to respond to something. But I don&#8217;t feel it&#8217;s my job to ensure any discussion have a particular tone or point of view.</p>
<p>Moreover, I cherish input from all parties when pursuing a story, and want as much as possible to be represented in my posts. If a drugmaker, for example, denies comment, whatever the reason and whatever the story, that&#8217;s the company&#8217;s decision. Not mine. But I want those views to be in the mix. Blogs are designed for more open communication than the industry is used to encountering, but it&#8217;s here to take advantage of, should anyone want. I&#8217;d like to see as many views expressed as possible, in fact.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also run a couple of guest columns - a sort of op-ed, if you will - and introduced those by noting I&#8217;d be open to doing more and invited suggestions. So if someone with legit creds, sufficient stature or unique experience has a suggestion and wants me to consider running something, I&#8217;m open to doing so. As I&#8217;ve always said, it&#8217;s a big pharma world and there&#8217;s room for all sorts of ideas. </p>
<p>Running this site is new and challenging. But I remain open to ideas because that&#8217;s how we learn - you, me and everyone else who stops by here - and while I&#8217;ll make mistakes from time to time, I have nothing to gain by excluding or rejecting certain opinions or views. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my 1.5 cent, adjusted for the shrinking dollar.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
ed</p>
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