Comments on: The Mylan Exec And The MBA Scandal http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:03:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Voice of Truth http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-344612 Voice of Truth Mon, 05 May 2008 20:23:56 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-344612 The way I see it, Garrison is a political hack who is all about implementing a political solution to save a job for which he is woefully unqualified. I understand Governor Joe has instructed Garrison to hold on through this storm in an attempt to minimize political fallout from landing where it belongs- in the Governor's lap. It is worth noting that many in West Virginia have developed a high tolerance for political corruption including some I have spoken with who expect nothing less from the Manchino family. But for the Manchin's to brazenly orchestrate this phony-MBA, followed by the phony-MBA cover-up is a disgrace more than the State can tolerate. The Post Gazette's May 4 article detailing the known falsehoods retailed by WVU Administration during the height of the cover-up will ultimately lead to the outing of Garrison's orchestral culpability at the eye of the conspiracy. At that point, Garrison should be prepared for the Governor and the other politicians to throw him under the bus as a final cathartic gesture for the public’s benefit geared at establishing a political firewall between the WVU scandal and the State's Chief Executive: Governor Joe Manchin. As an aside- It makes sense that they would keep Sears and Lang on the WVU ranch in hopes that they would uphold their end of the cover-up cover story. A more obvious question that the Post Gazette has almost- but not quite- brushed up against is about Bresch's fraudulent executive qualifications information being incorporated into an SEC filing. That part of the story has yet to be written. The way I see it, Garrison is a political hack who is all about implementing a political solution to save a job for which he is woefully unqualified. I understand Governor Joe has instructed Garrison to hold on through this storm in an attempt to minimize political fallout from landing where it belongs- in the Governor’s lap. It is worth noting that many in West Virginia have developed a high tolerance for political corruption including some I have spoken with who expect nothing less from the Manchino family. But for the Manchin’s to brazenly orchestrate this phony-MBA, followed by the phony-MBA cover-up is a disgrace more than the State can tolerate. The Post Gazette’s May 4 article detailing the known falsehoods retailed by WVU Administration during the height of the cover-up will ultimately lead to the outing of Garrison’s orchestral culpability at the eye of the conspiracy. At that point, Garrison should be prepared for the Governor and the other politicians to throw him under the bus as a final cathartic gesture for the public’s benefit geared at establishing a political firewall between the WVU scandal and the State’s Chief Executive: Governor Joe Manchin.

As an aside-
It makes sense that they would keep Sears and Lang on the WVU ranch in hopes that they would uphold their end of the cover-up cover story. A more obvious question that the Post Gazette has almost- but not quite- brushed up against is about Bresch’s fraudulent executive qualifications information being incorporated into an SEC filing. That part of the story has yet to be written.

]]> By: the truth http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-337748 the truth Sun, 04 May 2008 06:21:37 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-337748 Whoever said that these people could be scape goats is exactly correct! No one has stood behind the men who were forced to make a decision. My understanding is that the Garrison told them to make a decisions which entails more than one choice. It is out of this world that he then hung his adminitrators out to dry. Garrison is the story. He has been kissing ass ever since this story came out. He contradicts himeself everytime he opens his mouth. I think it would be interesting if he was put through a lie detection screening. He seems very dishonest. He is willing to try to keep his job while two other men who really were given the decision and not even at WVU when this situation occured have been embarrassed and hurt. I think it will be interesting to see how this plays out. But I think it is sad that everyone is looking for a story at the cost of someone's career and reputation. Besides this one decision that is up for interpretation on rather it was right or wrong, because no one probably knows the full story unless you were there 9 years ago, these men seemed to have been making huge strides with the school. Maybe people should be more open-minded insteaded of so cruel and heartless. I also find it interesting that Bresch isn't saying anything.. and her father is up for re-election. I know who I won't be voting for. In my opinion she and Garrison are cowards who are saving their own arses. Whoever said that these people could be scape goats is exactly correct! No one has stood behind the men who were forced to make a decision. My understanding is that the Garrison told them to make a decisions which entails more than one choice. It is out of this world that he then hung his adminitrators out to dry. Garrison is the story. He has been kissing ass ever since this story came out. He contradicts himeself everytime he opens his mouth. I think it would be interesting if he was put through a lie detection screening. He seems very dishonest. He is willing to try to keep his job while two other men who really were given the decision and not even at WVU when this situation occured have been embarrassed and hurt. I think it will be interesting to see how this plays out. But I think it is sad that everyone is looking for a story at the cost of someone’s career and reputation. Besides this one decision that is up for interpretation on rather it was right or wrong, because no one probably knows the full story unless you were there 9 years ago, these men seemed to have been making huge strides with the school. Maybe people should be more open-minded insteaded of so cruel and heartless. I also find it interesting that Bresch isn’t saying anything.. and her father is up for re-election. I know who I won’t be voting for. In my opinion she and Garrison are cowards who are saving their own arses.

]]> By: Dean B http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-324606 Dean B Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:20:38 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-324606 This case gives MBA students everywhere a new poster child for learning the importance of ethics. Bresch has harmed her friends, her alma mater, her fellow alumni, and her company, not to mention herself, which is precisely what ethics courses teach can happen when poor ethics go unchecked. Shoes are dropping at WVU, as they should. Now Mylan's own publicized Code of Ethics needs to weigh in to prove it is applicable to everyone in Mylan. This case gives MBA students everywhere a new poster child for learning the importance of ethics. Bresch has harmed her friends, her alma mater, her fellow alumni, and her company, not to mention herself, which is precisely what ethics courses teach can happen when poor ethics go unchecked. Shoes are dropping at WVU, as they should. Now Mylan’s own publicized Code of Ethics needs to weigh in to prove it is applicable to everyone in Mylan.

]]> By: JeanYar http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-323912 JeanYar Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:20:07 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-323912 Many students earn academic credit through experiential learning programs. But they apply and are approved prior to substituting the work experience for the classroom experience. There are records of all of these maintained both by their college and by university registrar's offices. The big issue with WVA is that there were no records to validate Bresch's assertions nor for what the university president (and personal friend) and provost tried to force through. Good job by the news reporters for uncovering this piece of corruption. Many students earn academic credit through experiential learning programs. But they apply and are approved prior to substituting the work experience for the classroom experience. There are records of all of these maintained both by their college and by university registrar’s offices. The big issue with WVA is that there were no records to validate Bresch’s assertions nor for what the university president (and personal friend) and provost tried to force through. Good job by the news reporters for uncovering this piece of corruption.

]]> By: Doc MBA http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-323720 Doc MBA Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:17:12 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-323720 What an infuriating story. For those of us who work full-time and then spend hours into the night studying in order to attain a REAL MBA, characters like this are an insult. No wonder "business people" and execs have such a bad reputation. What an infuriating story. For those of us who work full-time and then spend hours into the night studying in order to attain a REAL MBA, characters like this are an insult. No wonder “business people” and execs have such a bad reputation.

]]> By: withheld http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-321529 withheld Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:27:03 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-321529 I do not know about Mylan, but I have heard information from some who have been to this site-this is not isolated. The adminstrators in charge of hsr at this university also run the review board along the same lines (little oversight/coverups). Be very concerned if you have human subjects research there. I do not know about Mylan, but I have heard information from some who have been to this site-this is not isolated. The adminstrators in charge of hsr at this university also run the review board along the same lines (little oversight/coverups). Be very concerned if you have human subjects research there.

]]> By: Former pharma Marketing Exec http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-321423 Former pharma Marketing Exec Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:53:16 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-321423 Dean B has got it right. My understanding is that if she would have been legitimately qualified for the MBA by combining work experience with past/recent educational credits then she should have received proper coaching on the areas that she was lacking in qualifications - i.e. ethics... I look more to a persons character in a situation like this. Why didn't she come forth and say exactly how it was that she came by her MBA? This omission (sorry for the cliche) speaks volumes. Did she feel she really wasn't worthy, or that it was somehow fake? Yet here she was asking to be recognized as being worthy. The truth always comes out. What is to be gained, imagined or otherwise, by not disclosing up front. Personally, if she would have told her board at the outset that she has a MBA through a mixture of work experience and academic credits, makes it relevant to the work she does. So the issue isn't really that it is or might be a "fake" MBA. Rather, how much value did she place in it to feel so uncomfortable, or so it seems, to address it up front. The university should have done a better job of encouraging her to take additional courses to cover areas that are probably deficient when compared to "standard" MBA's. However, since the ethics issue was brought up, wouldn't it be good to search through current leadership in the top Pharma and see where they measure up in regards to ethics. I wonder if there is any connection. Might be interesting to look at this retrospectively as well. Dean B has got it right. My understanding is that if she would have been legitimately qualified for the MBA by combining work experience with past/recent educational credits then she should have received proper coaching on the areas that she was lacking in qualifications - i.e. ethics…

I look more to a persons character in a situation like this. Why didn’t she come forth and say exactly how it was that she came by her MBA? This omission (sorry for the cliche) speaks volumes. Did she feel she really wasn’t worthy, or that it was somehow fake? Yet here she was asking to be recognized as being worthy.

The truth always comes out. What is to be gained, imagined or otherwise, by not disclosing up front. Personally, if she would have told her board at the outset that she has a MBA through a mixture of work experience and academic credits, makes it relevant to the work she does.

So the issue isn’t really that it is or might be a “fake” MBA. Rather, how much value did she place in it to feel so uncomfortable, or so it seems, to address it up front.

The university should have done a better job of encouraging her to take additional courses to cover areas that are probably deficient when compared to “standard” MBA’s.

However, since the ethics issue was brought up, wouldn’t it be good to search through current leadership in the top Pharma and see where they measure up in regards to ethics. I wonder if there is any connection. Might be interesting to look at this retrospectively as well.

]]> By: Chris http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-321392 Chris Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:24:29 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-321392 Harpy, I agree. I thought I said all that but perhaps wasn't clear enough. Harpy,
I agree. I thought I said all that but perhaps wasn’t clear enough.

]]> By: Dean B http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-321345 Dean B Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:36:50 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-321345 Ironically, one educational benefit Bresch might have gained by completing her MBA honestly is the ethics course which is typically required in MBAs. Learning ethics the hard way can be the most expensive form of education. Ironically, one educational benefit Bresch might have gained by completing her MBA honestly is the ethics course which is typically required in MBAs. Learning ethics the hard way can be the most expensive form of education.

]]> By: harpy http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/the-mylan-exec-and-the-mba-scandal/#comment-321332 harpy Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:25:37 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=13350#comment-321332 <i>"...it could be argued that the degree was bioequivalent to an actual MBA."</i> JIM ftw!! Chris - If an MBA could be improved by combining real-world experience with academics, wouldn't they be doing that? Aren't they? Doctors have to do internships and residencies along with many other professions - on top of their regular coursework. It really doesn't matter whether she had a degree or not; what matters is that she lied about it and then tried to use her connections to cover it up. “…it could be argued that the degree was bioequivalent to an actual MBA.”

JIM ftw!!

Chris - If an MBA could be improved by combining real-world experience with academics, wouldn’t they be doing that? Aren’t they? Doctors have to do internships and residencies along with many other professions - on top of their regular coursework. It really doesn’t matter whether she had a degree or not; what matters is that she lied about it and then tried to use her connections to cover it up.

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