Comments on: What Conflict? The NIH And A Bucket Of Money http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/ News, Comment and Conversation Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:29:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: LILLI http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-269963 LILLI Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:03:51 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-269963 WHAT IS CONGRESS DOING? IT IS NOT ONLY WITH CHILDREN BUT ALSO WITH ADULTS. WE MUST HAVE TRUTH AND HONESTY IN MEDICAL HEALTHCARE. CHUCK GRASSLEY AND ALL ELECTED OFFICALS ARE DIRECTING THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT AFFECTS OUR LIVES---HEALTH. IT IS TIME CONGRESS STOPS CORRUPTION. MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY AND MYSELF WERE AFFECTD BY THE CONDITIONS THAT EXIST IN OUR SOCIETY. LAST AUGUST I LOST MY HUSBAND,THE LOVE OF MY LIFE BECAUSE OF THE CORRUPTION AND INFLUENCE OF SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS DIRECTING OUR LEGISLATIRES. WHEN WILL AMERICA HAVE ETHICAL HEALTH CARE LAWS? NEW JERSEY DOES CARE ABOUT IT CITIZENS. IT STARTS AT THE DOTORS OFFICE. WHAT IS CONGRESS DOING? IT IS NOT ONLY WITH CHILDREN BUT ALSO WITH ADULTS. WE MUST HAVE TRUTH AND HONESTY IN MEDICAL HEALTHCARE. CHUCK GRASSLEY AND ALL ELECTED OFFICALS ARE DIRECTING THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT AFFECTS OUR LIVES—HEALTH. IT IS TIME CONGRESS STOPS CORRUPTION. MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY AND MYSELF WERE AFFECTD BY THE CONDITIONS THAT EXIST IN OUR SOCIETY. LAST AUGUST I LOST MY HUSBAND,THE LOVE OF MY LIFE BECAUSE OF THE CORRUPTION AND INFLUENCE OF SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS DIRECTING OUR LEGISLATIRES. WHEN WILL AMERICA HAVE ETHICAL HEALTH CARE LAWS? NEW JERSEY DOES CARE ABOUT IT CITIZENS. IT STARTS AT THE DOTORS OFFICE.

]]> By: Farmanux News http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-269892 Farmanux News Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:04:01 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-269892 [...] what a fellow psychiatrist thinks of that!And it’s the place that hasn’t yet got back to Ed at Pharmalot! Read [...] [...] what a fellow psychiatrist thinks of that!And it’s the place that hasn’t yet got back to Ed at Pharmalot! Read [...]

]]> By: Farmanux News http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-269891 Farmanux News Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:03:10 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-269891 [...] Here’s what a fellow psychiatrist thinks of that!And it’s the place that hasn’t yet got back to Ed at Pharmalot! [...] [...] Here’s what a fellow psychiatrist thinks of that!And it’s the place that hasn’t yet got back to Ed at Pharmalot! [...]

]]> By: Insider http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-269436 Insider Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:24:26 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-269436 Lisa Excellent quote. Ed, Have you heard from Uni Cin yet? Dont let them off the hook......I haven't! I do hope Melissa has good tax records!! Lisa

Excellent quote.

Ed,

Have you heard from Uni Cin yet?

Dont let them off the hook……I haven’t!

I do hope Melissa has good tax records!!

]]> By: Matt http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-267417 Matt Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:00:37 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-267417 Obviously the woman has a conflict of interest between the people paying her and the work she is doing. It's no secret that educators, politicians, researchers, doctors, and psychiatrists are being well paid by Big Pharma to find favorable evidence to support the drugging of men, women, children, and animals. This is just another case of Big Pharma using people in key positions to urge the use of their drugs to treat everything. Obviously the woman has a conflict of interest between the people paying her and the work she is doing. It’s no secret that educators, politicians, researchers, doctors, and psychiatrists are being well paid by Big Pharma to find favorable evidence to support the drugging of men, women, children, and animals. This is just another case of Big Pharma using people in key positions to urge the use of their drugs to treat everything.

]]> By: Lisa Van S http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-266422 Lisa Van S Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:07:14 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-266422 Atlex, Id rather leave this isssue up to Grassley,.. than those who seek to profit from the drugging of our Nation's Children. Something Carl Sagan said 20 years ago seems to apply here: One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge-- even to ourselves-- that we've been so credulous. Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney,"Parade,February 1, 1987. Atlex,

Id rather leave this isssue up to Grassley,.. than those who seek to profit from the drugging of our Nation’s Children.

Something Carl Sagan said 20 years ago seems to apply here:

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge– even to ourselves– that we’ve been so credulous.

Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney,”Parade,February 1, 1987.

]]> By: Ed Silverman http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-266373 Ed Silverman Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:55:52 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-266373 Hi Atlex, Fair point about the study - it was one, although it was used for developing guidelines. In any event, the weight given the study isn't the issue, as I understand it. Rather, it was the alleged failure of the NIH and the university to monitor the relationships. Again, if I hear more, I will report back. Thanks for stopping by, ed Hi Atlex,

Fair point about the study - it was one, although it was used for developing guidelines. In any event, the weight given the study isn’t the issue, as I understand it. Rather, it was the alleged failure of the NIH and the university to monitor the relationships. Again, if I hear more, I will report back.

Thanks for stopping by,
ed

]]> By: Dan http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-266364 Dan Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:53:06 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-266364 How can this 'system' be functional if elements of the system are impure due to financial corruption? How can this ’system’ be functional if elements of the system are impure due to financial corruption?

]]> By: Atlex http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-266335 Atlex Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:45:20 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/what-conflict-the-nih-and-a-bucket-of-money/#comment-266335 The money issue aside, if you go back and look at the guidelines, this study was one of more than 100 used in the the guidelines' development. Moreover, while Grassley (not a medical expert) called the study inconclusive, the authors and other medical experts did draw conclusions from the study--essentially saying that those children who can tolerate the drug generally benefit from its use. This discussion is not meant to suggest that antipsychotics are good, bad or indifferent for children--that's one for the psychiatry and psychology communities, as well as other stakeholders to fight over. My point is simply that Grassley is grandstanding and misrepresenting the content and the importance of 1 study in order to make his point. This may be good politics, but it's not necessarily good science. The money issue aside, if you go back and look at the guidelines, this study was one of more than 100 used in the the guidelines’ development. Moreover, while Grassley (not a medical expert) called the study inconclusive, the authors and other medical experts did draw conclusions from the study–essentially saying that those children who can tolerate the drug generally benefit from its use.

This discussion is not meant to suggest that antipsychotics are good, bad or indifferent for children–that’s one for the psychiatry and psychology communities, as well as other stakeholders to fight over. My point is simply that Grassley is grandstanding and misrepresenting the content and the importance of 1 study in order to make his point. This may be good politics, but it’s not necessarily good science.

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