Comments on: Who Am I? Growing Up On Antidepressants http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:54:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: pg http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-299721 pg Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:53:35 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-299721 Doug, I appreciate your explanation. Might get back to you next time I'm here, I think from looking at your website that there's nowhere (as far as I could work out) to leave a comment so I can't answer you at your own website (is that right or did I miss a link, which I do sometimes?). Thanks for taking the time to reply. Doug, I appreciate your explanation. Might get back to you next time I’m here, I think from looking at your website that there’s nowhere (as far as I could work out) to leave a comment so I can’t answer you at your own website (is that right or did I miss a link, which I do sometimes?). Thanks for taking the time to reply.

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-297520 Doug Bremner Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:04:19 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-297520 pg, I don't treat children but if I did I don't thing I would use alot of ssri's since there isn't much evidence for their efficacy. And no I am not being sarcastic in saying that I prefer not to jump to prescribing ssri's given the evidence that the benefits are not as great as what people think. pg, I don’t treat children but if I did I don’t thing I would use alot of ssri’s since there isn’t much evidence for their efficacy. And no I am not being sarcastic in saying that I prefer not to jump to prescribing ssri’s given the evidence that the benefits are not as great as what people think.

]]> By: DaveD http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-297331 DaveD Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:22:12 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-297331 The similarities between street drug abuse and psychotropic prescription drug use are disturbing. Both types are toxic. Both can cause psychosis, damage the brain and other organs, and even cause death. And neither type of mind-altering drugs, legal or illegal, treats disease. It's important to recognize that the only significant difference between many prescription psychotropic drugs and street drugs such as "speed" and "downers" is that prescription drugs are legal. Neuro-psychiatrist Sydney Walker in "Dose of Sanity" The similarities between street drug abuse and psychotropic prescription drug use are disturbing. Both types are toxic. Both can cause psychosis, damage the brain and other organs, and even cause death. And neither type of mind-altering drugs, legal or illegal, treats disease. It’s important to recognize that the only significant difference between many prescription psychotropic drugs and street drugs such as “speed” and “downers” is that prescription drugs are legal.
Neuro-psychiatrist Sydney Walker in “Dose of Sanity”

]]> By: pg http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-294169 pg Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:34:53 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-294169 Doug, I'm really tired and confused today and really can't take much in well. I'm not SURE if you're being sarcastic but I dont think you are - though of course you might be. If you ARE (being sarcastic) then, I'm not 'anti drugs', but I'm VERY anti fraudulent science which as far as I can see has happened with a lot (maybe all?) of psychiatric drugs (easier to blame side effects on the patient's 'mental disorder') and a number of 'medical' drugs... for whatever reason (because it isn't so easy to blame the side effects on the patients as it is re 'psych' drugs). Mostly, I'm anti drugging children with psych drugs - fraudulent or not - because its a scary thought of what they may be going through, but don't know how to tell anyone as the 'anyones' they know are the the ones giving them their daily drugs - so who do they turn to while they're still able, and what happens when they understand there is nobody to turn to? And so their 'normality' is that whatever they go through is what they have to, until its too late to even consider that their thinking is not natural at all. If you're NOT being sarcastic, then the world desperately needs people like you to try to stop this happening to infants, preschoolers and children generally. And thats who I think you are, a good guy. But I might end up looking an idiot for saying that if you turn out to be only sarcastic :-) Whatever, if you are a good guy, a huge, genuine thank you for taking a stand to try to protect people in a world where powerful but unethical people are doing a huge amount of damage to others. If you're not, I'll just have to have a go back at you when I'm not so tired and can work it all out better than I can today :-| At the moment I THINK you're a good guy. Doug, I’m really tired and confused today and really can’t take much in well. I’m not SURE if you’re being sarcastic but I dont think you are - though of course you might be.

If you ARE (being sarcastic) then, I’m not ‘anti drugs’, but I’m VERY anti fraudulent science which as far as I can see has happened with a lot (maybe all?) of psychiatric drugs (easier to blame side effects on the patient’s ‘mental disorder’) and a number of ‘medical’ drugs… for whatever reason (because it isn’t so easy to blame the side effects on the patients as it is re ‘psych’ drugs).

Mostly, I’m anti drugging children with psych drugs - fraudulent or not - because its a scary thought of what they may be going through, but don’t know how to tell anyone as the ‘anyones’ they know are the the ones giving them their daily drugs - so who do they turn to while they’re still able, and what happens when they understand there is nobody to turn to? And so their ‘normality’ is that whatever they go through is what they have to, until its too late to even consider that their thinking is not natural at all.

If you’re NOT being sarcastic, then the world desperately needs people like you to try to stop this happening to infants, preschoolers and children generally. And thats who I think you are, a good guy. But I might end up looking an idiot for saying that if you turn out to be only sarcastic :-)

Whatever, if you are a good guy, a huge, genuine thank you for taking a stand to try to protect people in a world where powerful but unethical people are doing a huge amount of damage to others. If you’re not, I’ll just have to have a go back at you when I’m not so tired and can work it all out better than I can today :-| At the moment I THINK you’re a good guy.

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293856 Doug Bremner Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:09:28 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293856 Calcium channel blockers associated with seven fold increase in suicide in Swedish national database. I'd check on the reference but I'm too busy prescribing my placebos. (actually I didn't put anyone on an ssri today. pg would be proud. told the secretary that is probably why everyone showed up today. they know they aren't likely to get a prescription med). Calcium channel blockers associated with seven fold increase in suicide in Swedish national database. I’d check on the reference but I’m too busy prescribing my placebos. (actually I didn’t put anyone on an ssri today. pg would be proud. told the secretary that is probably why everyone showed up today. they know they aren’t likely to get a prescription med).

]]> By: Dan http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293826 Dan Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:01:40 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293826 Doug, You may want to check on the depression claim. Beta Blockers, however, are comparative to the others likely to give one impotence. Doug,

You may want to check on the depression claim. Beta Blockers, however, are comparative to the others likely to give one impotence.

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293631 Doug Bremner Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:17:26 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293631 btw I say they should add prozac to the poly pill since hypertension meds can make you depressed. btw I say they should add prozac to the poly pill since hypertension meds can make you depressed.

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293618 Doug Bremner Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:15:51 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293618 My cardiology colleagues have said about statins 'they ought to put that stuff in the drinking water.' Well now we can say... too late! It's already been done! btw a little bird was sitting in on a meeting of government officials involved in public health and academic physicians where there was a discussion of heart disease prevention. Most were focused on ways to get more medications like statins to people for primary prevention, or the use of a 'poly pill' that combines a statin, aspirin, ace inhibitor and beta blocker in one pill (i'm not kidding). One someone said 'how about teaching diet and lifestyle changes?' they said 'that doesn't work, already tried that, not worth the effort.' My cardiology colleagues have said about statins ‘they ought to put that stuff in the drinking water.’ Well now we can say… too late! It’s already been done!

btw a little bird was sitting in on a meeting of government officials involved in public health and academic physicians where there was a discussion of heart disease prevention. Most were focused on ways to get more medications like statins to people for primary prevention, or the use of a ‘poly pill’ that combines a statin, aspirin, ace inhibitor and beta blocker in one pill (i’m not kidding). One someone said ‘how about teaching diet and lifestyle changes?’ they said ‘that doesn’t work, already tried that, not worth the effort.’

]]> By: Doug Bremner http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293593 Doug Bremner Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:09:40 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-293593 Truthman, Matt, Nathan, Lisa, pg... the gangs all here. I was starting to miss you guys. Since prozac has gotten into the the drinking water now it isnt just some of us that are growing up psychopharmacologized. http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/2008/3/theyre-drugging-our-drinking-water.html my son asked if our little flimsy filter system would keep the prozac and lipitor out of our systems. The answer was... nope! Truthman, Matt, Nathan, Lisa, pg… the gangs all here. I was starting to miss you guys.

Since prozac has gotten into the the drinking water now it isnt just some of us that are growing up psychopharmacologized.

http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/2008/3/theyre-drugging-our-drinking-water.html

my son asked if our little flimsy filter system would keep the prozac and lipitor out of our systems. The answer was… nope!

]]> By: truthman30 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-291865 truthman30 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:59:21 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/04/who-am-i-growing-up-on-antidepressants/#comment-291865 pg MASS DRUGGING OF CHILDREN - the most horrendous crime ever committed against humanity. HOW COULD YOU DO THAT TO INFANTS AND PRESCHOOLERS AND SLEEP AT NIGHT? They sleep on pillows of cash made from profits soaked in misery... Pretty sick really.. pg
MASS DRUGGING OF CHILDREN - the most horrendous crime ever committed against humanity.

HOW COULD YOU DO THAT TO INFANTS AND PRESCHOOLERS AND SLEEP AT NIGHT?

They sleep on pillows of cash made from profits soaked in misery…

Pretty sick really..

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