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	<title>Comments on: Florida To Review Antipsychotic Guidelines For Kids</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa Van S</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364674</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Van S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

Thanks for your response I appreciate it. If Tandon has some shady ties he should be exposed.</description>
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<p>Thanks for your response I appreciate it. If Tandon has some shady ties he should be exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364277</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your honor,

That’s what we’re trained to do in this profession - argue.

And present evidence.

And blow smoke when necessary.

No smoke here though - all fire:

2007
http://www.psychsearch.net/apa2007.pdf

AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals LP4; Bristol-Myers Squibb Company4; Eli Lilly and Company4;Janssen Pharmaceutica Products, LP 4; National Institute of Mental Health 4; Otsuka America Pharmaceutical, Inc4 ; Pfizer Inc.4
(1 = consultant or advisory board; 4 = speakers’ bureau)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your honor,</p>
<p>That’s what we’re trained to do in this profession - argue.</p>
<p>And present evidence.</p>
<p>And blow smoke when necessary.</p>
<p>No smoke here though - all fire:</p>
<p>2007<br />
<a href="http://www.psychsearch.net/apa2007.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.psychsearch.net/apa2007.pdf</a></p>
<p>AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals LP4; Bristol-Myers Squibb Company4; Eli Lilly and Company4;Janssen Pharmaceutica Products, LP 4; National Institute of Mental Health 4; Otsuka America Pharmaceutical, Inc4 ; Pfizer Inc.4<br />
(1 = consultant or advisory board; 4 = speakers’ bureau)</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364275</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your honor,

That's what we're trained to do in this profession - argue.

And present evidence.

And blow smoke when necessary.

No smoke here though - all fire:

2007 
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals LP4; Bristol-Myers Squibb Company4; Eli Lilly and Company4;Janssen Pharmaceutica Products, LP 4; National Institute of Mental Health 4; Otsuka America Pharmaceutical, Inc4 ; Pfizer Inc.4 
(1 = consultant or advisory board; 4 =  speakers’ bureau)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your honor,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re trained to do in this profession - argue.</p>
<p>And present evidence.</p>
<p>And blow smoke when necessary.</p>
<p>No smoke here though - all fire:</p>
<p>2007<br />
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals LP4; Bristol-Myers Squibb Company4; Eli Lilly and Company4;Janssen Pharmaceutica Products, LP 4; National Institute of Mental Health 4; Otsuka America Pharmaceutical, Inc4 ; Pfizer Inc.4<br />
(1 = consultant or advisory board; 4 =  speakers’ bureau)</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364265</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Perry,

As I indicated earlier, I'm aware of potential examples and I am following the trail. You seem to want to argue instead.

ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Perry,</p>
<p>As I indicated earlier, I&#8217;m aware of potential examples and I am following the trail. You seem to want to argue instead.</p>
<p>ed</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364255</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Honor,

The documented drug ties clearly conflict with the Florida flack's assertion that this was all pre-Florida. The documents clearly show  drug ties years after he was hired by the State of Florida. 

It's all over the net.  Here's yet another solid reference: 

November 22, 2006 
http://tinyurl.com/6caggw

Rajiv Tandon, M.D., of the University of Florida in Tallahassee gave a presentation.  Both Dr Tandon and Dr. Feldman are members of the speakers bureau for Janssen, the sponsor of the symposium, and have financial relationships with Pfizer, AstraZeneca, and Bristol-Meyers Squibb as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Honor,</p>
<p>The documented drug ties clearly conflict with the Florida flack&#8217;s assertion that this was all pre-Florida. The documents clearly show  drug ties years after he was hired by the State of Florida. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all over the net.  Here&#8217;s yet another solid reference: </p>
<p>November 22, 2006<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/6caggw" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6caggw</a></p>
<p>Rajiv Tandon, M.D., of the University of Florida in Tallahassee gave a presentation.  Both Dr Tandon and Dr. Feldman are members of the speakers bureau for Janssen, the sponsor of the symposium, and have financial relationships with Pfizer, AstraZeneca, and Bristol-Meyers Squibb as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364219</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Perry,

I think you misunderstand me. I am merely trying to point out that, right or wrong, the Florida AHCF has chosen to decide that Tandon's consulting work for the various drugmakers is now irrelevant to his employment with the state.

You are correct in that he began work for the state's AHCF in the spring of 2004. My apologies. 

I do have several examples - including the one you offered - in which he is listed as an author on papers that were published in the following 12 months or so. However, the disclosures made in those papers may reflect the fact that the papers were submitted around the time he still worked for the University of Michigan and as a pharma consultant, based on the wording of the journals' disclosure forms (which I have not seen).

For the moment, the state AHCF spokeswoman maintains that Tandon ended his industry consulting after his employment began, and claims to have been aware of the specific relationships cited in the various journal studies that list his relationships to those drugmakers. 

That said, I am in the process of following up other leads that may shed more light on this situation. 

Regards
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Perry,</p>
<p>I think you misunderstand me. I am merely trying to point out that, right or wrong, the Florida AHCF has chosen to decide that Tandon&#8217;s consulting work for the various drugmakers is now irrelevant to his employment with the state.</p>
<p>You are correct in that he began work for the state&#8217;s AHCF in the spring of 2004. My apologies. </p>
<p>I do have several examples - including the one you offered - in which he is listed as an author on papers that were published in the following 12 months or so. However, the disclosures made in those papers may reflect the fact that the papers were submitted around the time he still worked for the University of Michigan and as a pharma consultant, based on the wording of the journals&#8217; disclosure forms (which I have not seen).</p>
<p>For the moment, the state AHCF spokeswoman maintains that Tandon ended his industry consulting after his employment began, and claims to have been aware of the specific relationships cited in the various journal studies that list his relationships to those drugmakers. </p>
<p>That said, I am in the process of following up other leads that may shed more light on this situation. </p>
<p>Regards<br />
ed</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364192</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your honor,

No newspaper has written on the very extensive evidence available on Rajiv Tandon.  A slight mention was made one single time. And here is that mention: "he was a paid consultant and on the speaker's bureau for several drug companies that make atypicals."  April 13, 2008, St. Petersburg Times

He started working in Florida in 2004 - not 2005.

His work for pharma did occur after his employment with the State of Florida. 

The previous documentation certainly is valid and this makes it even more clear: 

December 2004
http://tinyurl.com/62guqc

Rajiv Tandon, MD, Chief of Psychiatry, Florida Department of Children and Families, Tallahassee, Florida
Dr Tandon reports serving as a consultant to AstraZeneca LP, Bristol-Myers Squibb Company, Eli Lilly and Company, Janssen Pharmaceutica, and Pfizer Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your honor,</p>
<p>No newspaper has written on the very extensive evidence available on Rajiv Tandon.  A slight mention was made one single time. And here is that mention: &#8220;he was a paid consultant and on the speaker&#8217;s bureau for several drug companies that make atypicals.&#8221;  April 13, 2008, St. Petersburg Times</p>
<p>He started working in Florida in 2004 - not 2005.</p>
<p>His work for pharma did occur after his employment with the State of Florida. </p>
<p>The previous documentation certainly is valid and this makes it even more clear: </p>
<p>December 2004<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/62guqc" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/62guqc</a></p>
<p>Rajiv Tandon, MD, Chief of Psychiatry, Florida Department of Children and Families, Tallahassee, Florida<br />
Dr Tandon reports serving as a consultant to AstraZeneca LP, Bristol-Myers Squibb Company, Eli Lilly and Company, Janssen Pharmaceutica, and Pfizer Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lisa,

No selective reporting. To reiterate, I've noted both in this post and previous posts that Tandon has acted as a paid consultant to industry. The info provided by 'Perry Mason' had been reported by newspapers in Florida earlier this year and was included in my earlier posts. 

In Florida, state officials have decided his previous work for pharma - which occurred prior to his role as a state employee since 2005 - is not relevant to his participation on the panel. I included all this info in this latest post, and some folks may agree with the state's view and others may not. But I've put it out there for those who want to mull it over.

As to his efforts in other states, I don't know yet if he was a paid consultant or not. I just haven't gotten there yet. My job, as you know, involves scanning the universe all day, every day - even on most weekends - and actual reporting takes more time than hunting and gathering and linking to something else. So please be patient.

Regards
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa,</p>
<p>No selective reporting. To reiterate, I&#8217;ve noted both in this post and previous posts that Tandon has acted as a paid consultant to industry. The info provided by &#8216;Perry Mason&#8217; had been reported by newspapers in Florida earlier this year and was included in my earlier posts. </p>
<p>In Florida, state officials have decided his previous work for pharma - which occurred prior to his role as a state employee since 2005 - is not relevant to his participation on the panel. I included all this info in this latest post, and some folks may agree with the state&#8217;s view and others may not. But I&#8217;ve put it out there for those who want to mull it over.</p>
<p>As to his efforts in other states, I don&#8217;t know yet if he was a paid consultant or not. I just haven&#8217;t gotten there yet. My job, as you know, involves scanning the universe all day, every day - even on most weekends - and actual reporting takes more time than hunting and gathering and linking to something else. So please be patient.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
ed</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Van S</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364084</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Van S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ed,.. No response? Or just being a coward? I challenge you to do your job!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ed,.. No response? Or just being a coward? I challenge you to do your job!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Van S</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/florida-to-review-antipsychotic-guidelines-for-kids-2/#comment-364082</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Van S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ed,.. I find your selective reporting on Dr. Tandon and this issue Quite Disturbing. Our children deserve better than that from you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ed,.. I find your selective reporting on Dr. Tandon and this issue Quite Disturbing. Our children deserve better than that from you!!!</p>
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