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		<title>By: Lisa Van S</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/zyprexa-document-leader-i-wouldnt-do-it-again/#comment-357877</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Van S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Malicious Journalism?</description>
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<p>Malicious Journalism?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/zyprexa-document-leader-i-wouldnt-do-it-again/#comment-357854</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does the code of ethics say about "malicious journalism"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does the code of ethics say about &#8220;malicious journalism&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: pg</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/zyprexa-document-leader-i-wouldnt-do-it-again/#comment-357836</link>
		<dc:creator>pg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Dan
Written with the belief that documents should not be sealed if patient safety is an obvious concern:

Crime and Punishment: Enough for Corporate Wrongdoing?..."


I'd say thats a very good analysis of the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dan<br />
Written with the belief that documents should not be sealed if patient safety is an obvious concern:</p>
<p>Crime and Punishment: Enough for Corporate Wrongdoing?&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say thats a very good analysis of the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/06/zyprexa-document-leader-i-wouldnt-do-it-again/#comment-357832</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Written with the belief that documents should not be sealed if patient safety is an obvious concern:

Crime and Punishment:   Enough for Corporate Wrongdoing?

Corporate crime should not be a new concept to many.  However, it has evolved into more troubling ways- not only in regards to its severity, but the methods of deterrence now being implemented against corporations- involved in the health care industry in particular.  So it may be becoming progressively worse for U.S. citizens as a result.
Rather than speak of all corporations, what will be discussed is government health care fraud.  Fraud basically is deception with the potential to harm others.  In the case of pharma companies, this may include improper promotion and marketing, meaning that such tactics are or may be deceptive misconduct that may be illegal.  In addition, there are the crimes of kickbacks and lesser crimes of misbranding products.  Probably more methods of wrongdoing as well do in fact exist and happen.  Yet the point is that drug companies should not engage in such wrongdoing to enrich their faceless existence with profiting off those who are ill in illegal ways.  
How is such conduct discovered?  Typically by whistleblowers who worked for the described pharma company, and such people are rare for a number of reasons.  The whistleblower then seeks legal agents and files what is called a qui tam false claims act with a district attorney’s office (Boston or Philadelphia, if you want prosecutors to take you seriously).  After the case is filed, the whistleblower verbally acknowledges the charges and evidence to the chosen prosecutors and others.
Such cases usually take years for unclear reasons, yet in the past two years, the settlements from such cases has approached 2 billion dollars after investigations ended that took years, which is tax dollars returned to the American public with these settlements.  
So, what has been happening once a  pharma company is busted.  Criminal indictment by the district prosecutor?  Hardly, yet appropriate.  Usually, the prosecutor’s objective is to dismiss the case, but give the impression that such activities will not be tolerated by our government.  So Corporate Integrity Agreements are mandated to the pharma company, but not really taken seriously, as some have more than one of these agreements active still.  It’s an invisible ankle bracelet.  A pharma company can and have committed equal or worse crimes while under such an agreement.  This Agreement is issued after the deferred or non prosecution agreement is sentenced to the law-breaking corporation, which basically is a pre-trial diversion.  Essentialy, it’s just parole, which is supported by the DOJ and the administration.  The criminals admit wrongdoing, but not guilt.  And they pay a settlement in the neighborhood of hundreds of millions of dollars.  Not that shocking, if you consider the income of big pharma companies.  These agreements are relatively new and partially a result of suggestions from what was known as a Thompson memo, which basically was created by a DOJ guy as commandments for prosecuting corporations and variables to consider when doing so, which ultimately offered responses as to why a greater degree of punishment was not enforced.  
We are one of three countries in the world with the most prisoners behind bars, yet those that do similar if not greater harm to others get out of jail free.  Double standard, I would say.  Is this behavior by our legal system towards corporations an effective deterrent?  Most think not.  It rather seems like tacit approval of their conduct.  And health care fraud may be more damaging than other types in other industries, yet lack of regulation allows such crimes to continue.
Citizens should make the laws in our country.  Justice would then finally exist.

“Corporations cannot commit treason, nor be outlawed, nor excommunicated, for they have no souls.”
---- Edward Coke

Dan Abshear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Written with the belief that documents should not be sealed if patient safety is an obvious concern:</p>
<p>Crime and Punishment:   Enough for Corporate Wrongdoing?</p>
<p>Corporate crime should not be a new concept to many.  However, it has evolved into more troubling ways- not only in regards to its severity, but the methods of deterrence now being implemented against corporations- involved in the health care industry in particular.  So it may be becoming progressively worse for U.S. citizens as a result.<br />
Rather than speak of all corporations, what will be discussed is government health care fraud.  Fraud basically is deception with the potential to harm others.  In the case of pharma companies, this may include improper promotion and marketing, meaning that such tactics are or may be deceptive misconduct that may be illegal.  In addition, there are the crimes of kickbacks and lesser crimes of misbranding products.  Probably more methods of wrongdoing as well do in fact exist and happen.  Yet the point is that drug companies should not engage in such wrongdoing to enrich their faceless existence with profiting off those who are ill in illegal ways.<br />
How is such conduct discovered?  Typically by whistleblowers who worked for the described pharma company, and such people are rare for a number of reasons.  The whistleblower then seeks legal agents and files what is called a qui tam false claims act with a district attorney’s office (Boston or Philadelphia, if you want prosecutors to take you seriously).  After the case is filed, the whistleblower verbally acknowledges the charges and evidence to the chosen prosecutors and others.<br />
Such cases usually take years for unclear reasons, yet in the past two years, the settlements from such cases has approached 2 billion dollars after investigations ended that took years, which is tax dollars returned to the American public with these settlements.<br />
So, what has been happening once a  pharma company is busted.  Criminal indictment by the district prosecutor?  Hardly, yet appropriate.  Usually, the prosecutor’s objective is to dismiss the case, but give the impression that such activities will not be tolerated by our government.  So Corporate Integrity Agreements are mandated to the pharma company, but not really taken seriously, as some have more than one of these agreements active still.  It’s an invisible ankle bracelet.  A pharma company can and have committed equal or worse crimes while under such an agreement.  This Agreement is issued after the deferred or non prosecution agreement is sentenced to the law-breaking corporation, which basically is a pre-trial diversion.  Essentialy, it’s just parole, which is supported by the DOJ and the administration.  The criminals admit wrongdoing, but not guilt.  And they pay a settlement in the neighborhood of hundreds of millions of dollars.  Not that shocking, if you consider the income of big pharma companies.  These agreements are relatively new and partially a result of suggestions from what was known as a Thompson memo, which basically was created by a DOJ guy as commandments for prosecuting corporations and variables to consider when doing so, which ultimately offered responses as to why a greater degree of punishment was not enforced.<br />
We are one of three countries in the world with the most prisoners behind bars, yet those that do similar if not greater harm to others get out of jail free.  Double standard, I would say.  Is this behavior by our legal system towards corporations an effective deterrent?  Most think not.  It rather seems like tacit approval of their conduct.  And health care fraud may be more damaging than other types in other industries, yet lack of regulation allows such crimes to continue.<br />
Citizens should make the laws in our country.  Justice would then finally exist.</p>
<p>“Corporations cannot commit treason, nor be outlawed, nor excommunicated, for they have no souls.”<br />
&#8212;- Edward Coke</p>
<p>Dan Abshear</p>
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		<title>By: pg</title>
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		<dc:creator>pg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should the Judge have sealed those documents in the first place?  By doing so information, at least some of which concern undisclosed important health risks, was kept from physicians across the globe. 

By sealing those documents ('stifling the scientific process') the Judge also appears to have lost sight of certain basic principles of justice he had a decade ago:

"[p]rotective orders may have a legitimate role when there is no public impact or when true trade secrets are involved. But we can strike a fairer balance between privacy interests of corporations and the health and safety of the public.  &lt;b&gt;A publicly maintained legal system ought not protect those who engage in misconduct, conceal the cause of injury from the victims, or render potential victims vulnerable.  Moreover, such secrecy defeats the deterrent function of the justice system.&lt;/b&gt;"    

"Individual Justice in Mass Tort Litigation" by (Judge) Jack B Weinstein, February 2005, Page 70</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should the Judge have sealed those documents in the first place?  By doing so information, at least some of which concern undisclosed important health risks, was kept from physicians across the globe. </p>
<p>By sealing those documents (&#8217;stifling the scientific process&#8217;) the Judge also appears to have lost sight of certain basic principles of justice he had a decade ago:</p>
<p>&#8220;[p]rotective orders may have a legitimate role when there is no public impact or when true trade secrets are involved. But we can strike a fairer balance between privacy interests of corporations and the health and safety of the public.  <b>A publicly maintained legal system ought not protect those who engage in misconduct, conceal the cause of injury from the victims, or render potential victims vulnerable.  Moreover, such secrecy defeats the deterrent function of the justice system.</b>&#8221;    </p>
<p>&#8220;Individual Justice in Mass Tort Litigation&#8221; by (Judge) Jack B Weinstein, February 2005, Page 70</p>
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