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	<title>Comments on: No Chair Throwing Allowed At FDA Panel Meetings</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa Van S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Van S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDA wore "BULLET PROOF VESTS" during the 1991 Prozac Hearings. How ironic that they chose to protect themselves from a Prozac Induced Violent Person, and refused to disclose the Violent side effects to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDA wore &#8220;BULLET PROOF VESTS&#8221; during the 1991 Prozac Hearings. How ironic that they chose to protect themselves from a Prozac Induced Violent Person, and refused to disclose the Violent side effects to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Ball</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365400</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's the same 'ol SpIn that every government agency is taught in "Spin 101", a required and basic course of federal employment.  The higher you rise is correlated directly to the degree of effective spin used by you to government advantage.

In this case, as with so many others, it's the public that probably needs protection from the over-empowered officials at the FDA but then that is called just another conspiracy theory.  They will now read rules so that the public becomes arrestable if they speak up during the meetings.    

Sadly, there is no arm of the government, no office or branch that is left uncorrupted by the temptations of power and influence and of the inherent ability to profit by your position.  In the FDA's case, it is merely rampant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the same &#8216;ol SpIn that every government agency is taught in &#8220;Spin 101&#8243;, a required and basic course of federal employment.  The higher you rise is correlated directly to the degree of effective spin used by you to government advantage.</p>
<p>In this case, as with so many others, it&#8217;s the public that probably needs protection from the over-empowered officials at the FDA but then that is called just another conspiracy theory.  They will now read rules so that the public becomes arrestable if they speak up during the meetings.    </p>
<p>Sadly, there is no arm of the government, no office or branch that is left uncorrupted by the temptations of power and influence and of the inherent ability to profit by your position.  In the FDA&#8217;s case, it is merely rampant.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365396</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been a Nazi-like statement on the FDA website, ordering around those who give their allotted three minutes of public testimony.  It must come from this "incident", and is a very threatening document about public behavior.

Once, having testified several times, I finally said something like "It must be the culture of the FDA to never give eye contact to a family member whose son was killed by Zyprexa, to never offer condolences or a handshake, to never comment on the story of the death, to sit like zombies waiting impatiently for the minute time limit to be up.  I thought this agency was about the PUBLIC HEALTH".  Well, after that outburst, for the one and only time, every member of the panel (risk communication, I think) came up and shook my hand, gave me a card, a condolence, etc.  It was the darndest thing. And it hasn't happened since.  During public testimony, FDA behavior is usually look down at the table stonefaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been a Nazi-like statement on the FDA website, ordering around those who give their allotted three minutes of public testimony.  It must come from this &#8220;incident&#8221;, and is a very threatening document about public behavior.</p>
<p>Once, having testified several times, I finally said something like &#8220;It must be the culture of the FDA to never give eye contact to a family member whose son was killed by Zyprexa, to never offer condolences or a handshake, to never comment on the story of the death, to sit like zombies waiting impatiently for the minute time limit to be up.  I thought this agency was about the PUBLIC HEALTH&#8221;.  Well, after that outburst, for the one and only time, every member of the panel (risk communication, I think) came up and shook my hand, gave me a card, a condolence, etc.  It was the darndest thing. And it hasn&#8217;t happened since.  During public testimony, FDA behavior is usually look down at the table stonefaced.</p>
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		<title>By: MyPharmalotID</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365394</link>
		<dc:creator>MyPharmalotID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reward for verifiable proof that a threat actually was made against either Dr. Scher or Dr. Hussain following the Provenge AC meeting (actually, for a threat made against either one during the period from the Provenge AC meeting through the June 2007 cancer symposium at which they showed up with bodyguards) is $3000.  It will be paid to charity, once the documents provided (e.g., a police report) have been verified as legitimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reward for verifiable proof that a threat actually was made against either Dr. Scher or Dr. Hussain following the Provenge AC meeting (actually, for a threat made against either one during the period from the Provenge AC meeting through the June 2007 cancer symposium at which they showed up with bodyguards) is $3000.  It will be paid to charity, once the documents provided (e.g., a police report) have been verified as legitimate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry Donahue, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365390</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Donahue, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the FDA is worried that some CareToLive demonstrators will show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the FDA is worried that some CareToLive demonstrators will show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Seeks the Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365389</link>
		<dc:creator>Seeks the Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a reward of AT LEAST $2000 on the Investorvillage DNDN site for anyone who can actually PROVE that Hussain or Dr. Howard Scher ever actually received serious "threats."

It's always easy to claim being a "victim" and garnering appropriate sympathy. It's another, of course, to produce the FACTS and corroborating e-mails, letters etc.

Scher and Hussain have played the "victim" role to the hilt while shamelessly helping to deny FDA approval of DNDN's product, Provenge.

Meanwhile, the REAL victims are the THOUSANDS of men with advanced prostate cancer who might have benefitted from Provenge injections. 

But I forgot, Hussain and Scher are both staunch advocates of CHEMOtherapy for PCa.
Approval of a revolutionary vaccine with very few side-effects and survival benefits would certainly jeopardize all the money from Big Pharma that flows their way.

There is no PROOF yet that Hussain/Scher ever got any real serious threats. But one could imagine such circumstances, especially from a desperately sick man, father, brother, husband or grandfather who was denied a chance for prolonged survival by their shameful actions.

The $2000 reward remains unclaimed!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a reward of AT LEAST $2000 on the Investorvillage DNDN site for anyone who can actually PROVE that Hussain or Dr. Howard Scher ever actually received serious &#8220;threats.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always easy to claim being a &#8220;victim&#8221; and garnering appropriate sympathy. It&#8217;s another, of course, to produce the FACTS and corroborating e-mails, letters etc.</p>
<p>Scher and Hussain have played the &#8220;victim&#8221; role to the hilt while shamelessly helping to deny FDA approval of DNDN&#8217;s product, Provenge.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the REAL victims are the THOUSANDS of men with advanced prostate cancer who might have benefitted from Provenge injections. </p>
<p>But I forgot, Hussain and Scher are both staunch advocates of CHEMOtherapy for PCa.<br />
Approval of a revolutionary vaccine with very few side-effects and survival benefits would certainly jeopardize all the money from Big Pharma that flows their way.</p>
<p>There is no PROOF yet that Hussain/Scher ever got any real serious threats. But one could imagine such circumstances, especially from a desperately sick man, father, brother, husband or grandfather who was denied a chance for prolonged survival by their shameful actions.</p>
<p>The $2000 reward remains unclaimed!!</p>
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		<title>By: kyoto27</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365388</link>
		<dc:creator>kyoto27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDA Intern: Thank God someone is protecting the FDA from itself! Bravo. It is not in the public interest for the public to learn that the FDA is not--in fact, a science based agency.  Congress allows the FDA to operate behind closed doors because watching the FDA struggle in its determined effort to put a round peg in a square hole is too much to bear even for this do-nothing Congress. 

And thank God also, for the Ed Silvermans of this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDA Intern: Thank God someone is protecting the FDA from itself! Bravo. It is not in the public interest for the public to learn that the FDA is not&#8211;in fact, a science based agency.  Congress allows the FDA to operate behind closed doors because watching the FDA struggle in its determined effort to put a round peg in a square hole is too much to bear even for this do-nothing Congress. </p>
<p>And thank God also, for the Ed Silvermans of this world.</p>
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		<title>By: MyPharmalotID</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365384</link>
		<dc:creator>MyPharmalotID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is, had the FDA acted in good faith prior to the Provenge AC meeting, it would have rejected Drs. Scher and Hussain’s waiver requests.

A study published by BioCentury, The Bernstein Report On BioBusiness®, March 26, 2007, noted the following regarding new COI rules that were under consideration even before the Provenge Advisory Committee meeting:
 
“Under the draft guidance, Scher either would be prevented from voting or excluded from the meeting.”

As regards to Dr. Maha Hussain:
 
“The waiver notes that Hussain is the principal investigator on a research contract awarded by a competing company for a product that is not related to Provenge. Under the draft guidance this probably would not be considered a conflict. However, the fact that her husband owns stock in three competing companies, valued at $15,000-$300,000, would at minimum prevent her from voting. If the total value of the stock exceeds $50,000, Hussain wouldn’t even be at the table if the new policy were in effect.”

Vince Tolino, Director, Ethics and Integrity Staff, FDA, should never have forwarded Scher’s and Hussain’s waiver requests to Randall Lutter, Ph.D., Associate Commissioner for Policy and Planning, FDA, and the latter never should have approved them.

There still is no indication that the proposed revisions to the FDA COI rules have been adopted.

What a pitiful excuse for a Federal agency.  As for their Office of FDA Ethics, one has to wonder whether or not anyone is minding the store! The same may be said of HHS' Office of the Inspector General!  The failure to pursue the obvious COI provisions represents a total failure of the agency, right up to the very top of the leadership ladder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is, had the FDA acted in good faith prior to the Provenge AC meeting, it would have rejected Drs. Scher and Hussain’s waiver requests.</p>
<p>A study published by BioCentury, The Bernstein Report On BioBusiness®, March 26, 2007, noted the following regarding new COI rules that were under consideration even before the Provenge Advisory Committee meeting:</p>
<p>“Under the draft guidance, Scher either would be prevented from voting or excluded from the meeting.”</p>
<p>As regards to Dr. Maha Hussain:</p>
<p>“The waiver notes that Hussain is the principal investigator on a research contract awarded by a competing company for a product that is not related to Provenge. Under the draft guidance this probably would not be considered a conflict. However, the fact that her husband owns stock in three competing companies, valued at $15,000-$300,000, would at minimum prevent her from voting. If the total value of the stock exceeds $50,000, Hussain wouldn’t even be at the table if the new policy were in effect.”</p>
<p>Vince Tolino, Director, Ethics and Integrity Staff, FDA, should never have forwarded Scher’s and Hussain’s waiver requests to Randall Lutter, Ph.D., Associate Commissioner for Policy and Planning, FDA, and the latter never should have approved them.</p>
<p>There still is no indication that the proposed revisions to the FDA COI rules have been adopted.</p>
<p>What a pitiful excuse for a Federal agency.  As for their Office of FDA Ethics, one has to wonder whether or not anyone is minding the store! The same may be said of HHS&#8217; Office of the Inspector General!  The failure to pursue the obvious COI provisions represents a total failure of the agency, right up to the very top of the leadership ladder.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mack</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365383</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have no fear! FDA Intern is on the case! See http://pharmamkting.blogspot.com/2008/07/fda-intern-vs-inebriated-advisory.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have no fear! FDA Intern is on the case! See <a href="http://pharmamkting.blogspot.com/2008/07/fda-intern-vs-inebriated-advisory.html" rel="nofollow">http://pharmamkting.blogspot.com/2008/07/fda-intern-vs-inebriated-advisory.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason L</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/no-chair-throwing-allowed-at-fda-panel-meetings/#comment-365380</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn't agree with you more Kyoto.  I think it rather hypocritical to tighten up on public participation when the FDA is already hermetically sealed regarding high level decisions.  Maha's had egregious COIs and yet here she is chairing this meeting.  Maha, with her hand in derailing Provenge has abetted in denying many, many, many suffering men from improving their lives.  Also, she is complicit in stalling Neuvenge, perhaps derailing that as well.

She can sit in her high chair and demand order, but it is my supplicative hope that a critical, and questioning public question her COIs at EVERY turn.  If she has nothing to hide...answer the questions...transparency should be held to the highest degree for these so called experts who are above the very rules they create to subvert questioning of their own actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more Kyoto.  I think it rather hypocritical to tighten up on public participation when the FDA is already hermetically sealed regarding high level decisions.  Maha&#8217;s had egregious COIs and yet here she is chairing this meeting.  Maha, with her hand in derailing Provenge has abetted in denying many, many, many suffering men from improving their lives.  Also, she is complicit in stalling Neuvenge, perhaps derailing that as well.</p>
<p>She can sit in her high chair and demand order, but it is my supplicative hope that a critical, and questioning public question her COIs at EVERY turn.  If she has nothing to hide&#8230;answer the questions&#8230;transparency should be held to the highest degree for these so called experts who are above the very rules they create to subvert questioning of their own actions.</p>
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