Comments on: Ranbaxy Accused By Feds Of Falsifying Records http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/ranbaxy-accused-by-feds-of-falsifying-records/ News, Comment and Conversation Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:33:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Sumanth http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/ranbaxy-accused-by-feds-of-falsifying-records/#comment-367057 Sumanth Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:11:39 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=14599#comment-367057 SeeThisBefore: Not to say that Ranbaxy is clean-I'm making my case on the premise that you're not guilty until proven to be. On the other hand, if you're even remotely related to the pharmaceutical community (and I believe you are)- you will be aware of enough and more instances where Western companies have been been proven guilty for business malpractices. The fact is- and try challenging this-Indian and Chinese companies are an integral part of the supply chain of companies worldwide. For every such accusation, I'm sure there are a few hundred instances of how Indian players have contributed to the success of Western pharma. And If culture and business ethics were ever an issue, would the West ever have come to India? SeeThisBefore:
Not to say that Ranbaxy is clean-I’m making my case on the premise that you’re not guilty until proven to be.

On the other hand, if you’re even remotely related to the pharmaceutical community (and I believe you are)- you will be aware of enough and more instances where Western companies have been been proven guilty for business malpractices.
The fact is- and try challenging this-Indian and Chinese companies are an integral part of the supply chain of companies worldwide. For every such accusation, I’m sure there are a few hundred instances of how Indian players have contributed to the success of Western pharma.

And If culture and business ethics were ever an issue, would the West ever have come to India?

]]> By: Chris http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/ranbaxy-accused-by-feds-of-falsifying-records/#comment-366616 Chris Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:04:25 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=14599#comment-366616 SeeThisBefore: You take an amazing swipe at 'Indian companies' in general and beieve that their sense of "ethics" is vastly different to the Western culture: Apart from the rather offensive tone of your comments I think you may be surprised at how wrong you are. As Jaynesday (and a lot of other people) recognise the Indians, SE Asians and Chinese are well on their way to dominating many industries through ingenuity, hard work and rigorous education. Not all obviously, and no doubt ethical violations occur as they do anywhere (Transkaryotic anyone?) but ignoring that and lumping "Indians" under one heading risks having your you know what handed to you in a sling. SeeThisBefore: You take an amazing swipe at ‘Indian companies’ in general and beieve that their sense of “ethics” is vastly different to the Western culture: Apart from the rather offensive tone of your comments I think you may be surprised at how wrong you are. As Jaynesday (and a lot of other people) recognise the Indians, SE Asians and Chinese are well on their way to dominating many industries through ingenuity, hard work and rigorous education. Not all obviously, and no doubt ethical violations occur as they do anywhere (Transkaryotic anyone?) but ignoring that and lumping “Indians” under one heading risks having your you know what handed to you in a sling.

]]> By: Jaynesday http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/ranbaxy-accused-by-feds-of-falsifying-records/#comment-366593 Jaynesday Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:44:29 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=14599#comment-366593 SeenThisBefore - your comment "they are a culturally problematic pattern of behaviour." As in they are incapable of doing better? Don't kid yourself. SeenThisBefore - your comment “they are a culturally problematic pattern of behaviour.”
As in they are incapable of doing better? Don’t kid yourself.

]]> By: SeenThisBefore http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/ranbaxy-accused-by-feds-of-falsifying-records/#comment-366568 SeenThisBefore Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:48:30 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=14599#comment-366568 This should NOT surpise anyone familiar with how Indian companies do business. Their sense of "ethics" is vastly different than the Western culture. For example, Wockhardt (another Indian generic company) was issued a Warning Letter in 2006 for peristent fabrication of data despite multiple FDA inspections and meetings (http://www.fda.gov/cder/warn/2006/320-06-01.pdf). In the past two years, a number of Chinese drug substance manufacturers have been issued Warning Letters, and there is the recent heparin raw materials issues. These are not isolated incidents - they are a culturally problemmatic pattern of behavior. Cheating will continue to be a problem for US companies that have outsourced to "emerging markets." This should NOT surpise anyone familiar with how Indian companies do business. Their sense of “ethics” is vastly different than the Western culture. For example, Wockhardt (another Indian generic company) was issued a Warning Letter in 2006 for peristent fabrication of data despite multiple FDA inspections and meetings (http://www.fda.gov/cder/warn/2006/320-06-01.pdf). In the past two years, a number of Chinese drug substance manufacturers have been issued Warning Letters, and there is the recent heparin raw materials issues. These are not isolated incidents - they are a culturally problemmatic pattern of behavior. Cheating will continue to be a problem for US companies that have outsourced to “emerging markets.”

]]> By: Jaynesday http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/ranbaxy-accused-by-feds-of-falsifying-records/#comment-366506 Jaynesday Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:54:11 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=14599#comment-366506 Dr. Sal Near as I can tell practically every industry on the planet (maybe with the exception of pharma) has already begun to push for the lowest price point and those that succeed also maintain or increase their level of quality. Yes it can be done. Especially when we face a crisis point. Pharma is at that do or die point in my humble opinion. I have no facts to base this next statement on but here goes - I suspect their are *billions* of dollars of fat of all kinds in the pharma industry. If properly organized and streamlined I would also predict that pharma *could* provide a much better product (as a whole) at a lower cost. Actual I honestly feel they are going to have to. Business as usual is going to have to come to an end. Dr. Sal
Near as I can tell practically every industry on the planet (maybe with the exception of pharma) has already begun to push for the lowest price point and those that succeed also maintain or increase their level of quality. Yes it can be done. Especially when we face a crisis point. Pharma is at that do or die point in my humble opinion.
I have no facts to base this next statement on but here goes -
I suspect their are *billions* of dollars of fat of all kinds in the pharma industry. If properly organized and streamlined I would also predict that pharma *could* provide a much better product (as a whole) at a lower cost. Actual I honestly feel they are going to have to. Business as usual is going to have to come to an end.

]]> By: Dr. Sal Giorgianni http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/ranbaxy-accused-by-feds-of-falsifying-records/#comment-366499 Dr. Sal Giorgianni Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:44:54 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=14599#comment-366499 Wow - how could this happen. If folks are worried about QC in companies with huge brand-name reputations just wait. You ain't seen notning yet. As the commoditization of medicines continues to push to the lowest price point I fear a lot more reports such as these will surfact. What's that old joke about not feeling too comfortable about flying in a plane built with parts that went to the lowest-bidding government contractor? Food for some uncomfortable thought. Wow - how could this happen.

If folks are worried about QC in companies with huge brand-name reputations just wait. You ain’t seen notning yet. As the commoditization of medicines continues to push to the lowest price point I fear a lot more reports such as these will surfact.

What’s that old joke about not feeling too comfortable about flying in a plane built with parts that went to the lowest-bidding government contractor? Food for some uncomfortable thought.

]]> By: Anne PME http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/ranbaxy-accused-by-feds-of-falsifying-records/#comment-366470 Anne PME Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:53:44 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=14599#comment-366470 "At this point and time, we’re conducting business as normal until we address these questions.” Chuck Caprariello, Ranbaxy spokesman Perhaps Mr. Caprariello would elaborate on what he means by "conducting business as normal". “At this point and time, we’re conducting business as normal until we address these questions.”
Chuck Caprariello, Ranbaxy spokesman

Perhaps Mr. Caprariello would elaborate on what he means by “conducting business as normal”.

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