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		<title>By: Justice in Michigan</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/08/pdufa-fees-to-increase-slightly/#comment-368759</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice in Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My pleasure, of course.  Yeah, PDUFA was initially viewed as the perfect compromise - reviews speeded up, Congress gets off the hook for underfunding FDA, and there is a certain sense of appropriateness that the industry that benefits from FDA review should foot some of the bill.

None of that prevented Gingrich and Co. from trying to destroy FDA (and Kessler) altogether a few years later.

In the meantime, there were also a number of unforeseen consequences.  And David K. is a lot less sanguine about the impact of PDUFA now than he was at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pleasure, of course.  Yeah, PDUFA was initially viewed as the perfect compromise - reviews speeded up, Congress gets off the hook for underfunding FDA, and there is a certain sense of appropriateness that the industry that benefits from FDA review should foot some of the bill.</p>
<p>None of that prevented Gingrich and Co. from trying to destroy FDA (and Kessler) altogether a few years later.</p>
<p>In the meantime, there were also a number of unforeseen consequences.  And David K. is a lot less sanguine about the impact of PDUFA now than he was at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/08/pdufa-fees-to-increase-slightly/#comment-368755</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justice – I didn’t know David Kessler was involved with the making of PDUFA.  In fact, until recently, I didn’t even know he was a former FDA commissioner.  I began to pay attention to Pharma and FDA preemption when I learned the off-label use of Celexa was to blame for a serious health crisis in my family.

I’ve learned a lot, and, for that, I give a lot of the credit to you and Ed and all the good folks here at Pharmalot.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justice – I didn’t know David Kessler was involved with the making of PDUFA.  In fact, until recently, I didn’t even know he was a former FDA commissioner.  I began to pay attention to Pharma and FDA preemption when I learned the off-label use of Celexa was to blame for a serious health crisis in my family.</p>
<p>I’ve learned a lot, and, for that, I give a lot of the credit to you and Ed and all the good folks here at Pharmalot.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in Michigan</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/08/pdufa-fees-to-increase-slightly/#comment-368732</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice in Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are interesting recent comments by David Kessler on PDUFA at

http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20070501193354.pdf

He is certainly not as enthusiastic about it as he once was, particularly because of the ways it has drained away CDER resources from other needs, as discuseed above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are interesting recent comments by David Kessler on PDUFA at</p>
<p><a href="http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20070501193354.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20070501193354.pdf</a></p>
<p>He is certainly not as enthusiastic about it as he once was, particularly because of the ways it has drained away CDER resources from other needs, as discuseed above.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in Michigan</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/08/pdufa-fees-to-increase-slightly/#comment-368727</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice in Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dianne - Of course, I appreciate the Kessler quote.  But PDUFA was significantly his initiative.  I'm not sure how he feels about it now - does anyone know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dianne - Of course, I appreciate the Kessler quote.  But PDUFA was significantly his initiative.  I&#8217;m not sure how he feels about it now - does anyone know?</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack2, Atlex:   Thanks for your comments.  It is very obvious that, as a “regulator” the FDA has a lot of power, and the industry they are “regulating” and receiving fees from is in a position to cost Americans their health, safety, and civil liberties.
 
Regardless of who is responsible for the current system, it is ripe for corruption.

The following comments are from David Kessler: 
 
“Even if FDA’s funding were doubled or tripled, its resources and ability to detect emerging risks on the thousands of marketed drugs and devices would still be dwarfed by those of the drug and device companies who manufacture those products…

For that reason, the tort system has historically provided a critical incentive to drug and device companies to disclose important information to physicians, patients, and the FDA about newly emerging risks…

My greatest concern with preemption is that it would, I believe, dramatically reduce the incentives for manufacturers to act quickly and responsibly to detect, analyze, investigate, and take action on potentially serious and life threatening adverse reactions once a drug is on the market.” – David Kessler, Former FDA Commissioner, Oversight Committee Meeting, May 14, 2008”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack2, Atlex:   Thanks for your comments.  It is very obvious that, as a “regulator” the FDA has a lot of power, and the industry they are “regulating” and receiving fees from is in a position to cost Americans their health, safety, and civil liberties.</p>
<p>Regardless of who is responsible for the current system, it is ripe for corruption.</p>
<p>The following comments are from David Kessler: </p>
<p>“Even if FDA’s funding were doubled or tripled, its resources and ability to detect emerging risks on the thousands of marketed drugs and devices would still be dwarfed by those of the drug and device companies who manufacture those products…</p>
<p>For that reason, the tort system has historically provided a critical incentive to drug and device companies to disclose important information to physicians, patients, and the FDA about newly emerging risks…</p>
<p>My greatest concern with preemption is that it would, I believe, dramatically reduce the incentives for manufacturers to act quickly and responsibly to detect, analyze, investigate, and take action on potentially serious and life threatening adverse reactions once a drug is on the market.” – David Kessler, Former FDA Commissioner, Oversight Committee Meeting, May 14, 2008”</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in Michigan</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/08/pdufa-fees-to-increase-slightly/#comment-368681</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice in Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As above, I agree with Atlex that leadership (or lack thereof) is probably more important than funding source.  That comes from the administration, not Congress (although they have to approve the Commish).

PDUFA has a complicated history that involved a good deal of input from industry, FDA, and others at the time.  So while Congress approved it, it seemes too simple to me to say they "set up" the PDUFA system.  

The jury is still out on the full range of its impacts.  As above, it certainly had the result of taking other CDER internal budgetary resources and moving them to new drug review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As above, I agree with Atlex that leadership (or lack thereof) is probably more important than funding source.  That comes from the administration, not Congress (although they have to approve the Commish).</p>
<p>PDUFA has a complicated history that involved a good deal of input from industry, FDA, and others at the time.  So while Congress approved it, it seemes too simple to me to say they &#8220;set up&#8221; the PDUFA system.  </p>
<p>The jury is still out on the full range of its impacts.  As above, it certainly had the result of taking other CDER internal budgetary resources and moving them to new drug review.</p>
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		<title>By: Atlex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atlex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dianne,

As Jack2 points out, the FDA is a regulator.  It regulates based on the laws passed by Congress and signed by the President.  Congress set up the user fee structure, not the FDA.  Congress decided that rather than fund the FDA to the extent that is required to operate effectively, a better alternative was to extract user fees from the industry.  This is common practice at the federal, state and municipal level.  If you don't like it, go to your congressman and ask him/her to fully fund the FDA and ban user fees.  In the end, it is not the user fee that impacts the positions taken by the FDA, but the leadership put in place by the administration.

Atlex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dianne,</p>
<p>As Jack2 points out, the FDA is a regulator.  It regulates based on the laws passed by Congress and signed by the President.  Congress set up the user fee structure, not the FDA.  Congress decided that rather than fund the FDA to the extent that is required to operate effectively, a better alternative was to extract user fees from the industry.  This is common practice at the federal, state and municipal level.  If you don&#8217;t like it, go to your congressman and ask him/her to fully fund the FDA and ban user fees.  In the end, it is not the user fee that impacts the positions taken by the FDA, but the leadership put in place by the administration.</p>
<p>Atlex</p>
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		<title>By: Jack2</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/08/pdufa-fees-to-increase-slightly/#comment-368673</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither the DMV, the town park, nor FDA makes the law.  The state, municipal and federal government, respectively, make the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither the DMV, the town park, nor FDA makes the law.  The state, municipal and federal government, respectively, make the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/08/pdufa-fees-to-increase-slightly/#comment-368648</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack 2:  The DMV and your town park don’t make law—they just enforce it.  

The FDA is attempting to make the law, enforce the law, and adjudicate the law, all on the side of Pharma--using fees paid to them by Pharma.

I’m not saying the FDA doesn’t need more money; I am saying, they shouldn’t be paid by the industry they police.

Actions talk.  The FDA has shown that they are going to act on the side of big business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack 2:  The DMV and your town park don’t make law—they just enforce it.  </p>
<p>The FDA is attempting to make the law, enforce the law, and adjudicate the law, all on the side of Pharma&#8211;using fees paid to them by Pharma.</p>
<p>I’m not saying the FDA doesn’t need more money; I am saying, they shouldn’t be paid by the industry they police.</p>
<p>Actions talk.  The FDA has shown that they are going to act on the side of big business.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in Michigan</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/08/pdufa-fees-to-increase-slightly/#comment-368644</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice in Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Dianne's point, I believe there are cases that show a clearly inappropriate relationship between regulators and regulated.  And some FDA senior managers figure centrally in that. The Rezulin case has some of the more "dramatic" such examples; Vioxx a bit less dramatic, but - at the least - striking.

What has PDUFA contributed to that? I'm not sure.  In the past, way before PDUFA, industry presumed virtual free reign under some FDA regimes.  Ask Frances Kelsey (who was ultimately supported by her own senior managers).

My own sense is that inappropriate "coziness" has more to do with who is in FDA senior positions than with PDUFA per se.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Dianne&#8217;s point, I believe there are cases that show a clearly inappropriate relationship between regulators and regulated.  And some FDA senior managers figure centrally in that. The Rezulin case has some of the more &#8220;dramatic&#8221; such examples; Vioxx a bit less dramatic, but - at the least - striking.</p>
<p>What has PDUFA contributed to that? I&#8217;m not sure.  In the past, way before PDUFA, industry presumed virtual free reign under some FDA regimes.  Ask Frances Kelsey (who was ultimately supported by her own senior managers).</p>
<p>My own sense is that inappropriate &#8220;coziness&#8221; has more to do with who is in FDA senior positions than with PDUFA per se.</p>
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