I don’t see much point in validating their approach by continuing to try to talk to the halfwits, to be honest.

Matt

I certainly don’t believe this conspiracy is being carried out by everyone in the health industry; there are a lot of well-meaning people with no other interests than to help people. But one of the things that’s been subverted by psychiatry since WW2, are our universities; if you change what is taught, you change what is learned.

One thing intelligence warfare has in common with martial arts is, you use your opponent’s strengths and weaknesses against him/her/it.

And that’s what this is - warfare. With pharmaceuticals (and concepts, and advertising, etc.)as weapons. ANYONE who supports medications like these is either malintentioned, or just doesn’t get it, and is simply on the bandwagon, believing what they are told, simply because it comes from the university. Or the doctor. Or the politician.

The circumstances we have could not be more Orwellian.

-Allan Bloom

“Claus” raises a good point (if I read it correctly) Why HAVE these practices become so big?

First it is important to recognize that virtually all our federal agencies have been subverted. FDA has been subverted - or Paxil would have never found itself on the market to begin with. If it wasn’t still subverted, Paxil wouldn’t STILL be on the market. As to HOW these agencies are subverted, I recommend reading Fletcher Prouty’s, The Secret Team. With what’s outlined there - and what is outlined in the 2004 IWG release, US Intelligence and the Nazis, you’ll find the foundation of this house that is our country consumed by termites almost entirely. THAT’s how.

In the matter of SKB’s merger with Glaxo, The Securities and Exchange commision greenlighted the merger WITH big problems associated with Paxil surfacing… allowing essentially a corporation (if it were a person) to avoid murder charges, simply by “getting married”.

And there again - why?

You follow that “why”, and you’ll end up seeing things you’ll find hard to believe. And when you view our country’s matters through the lens of how and why these pharma matters have gotten so out of control, it all begins to make sense. And it’s not a comforting thing to behold.

Absolutely on target , as usual Matt : )

Psychiatrists somehow think that their profession entitles them to unquestioned power and knowledge. Ironic, given that their “knowledge” of mental illness has no basis in scientific fact and their practices are little more than stabs in the dark.

What do I think about psychiatrists? I don’t know, to be honest. They’re a very secretive bunch - I’m still drawn to Joe “where you going with that gun in your hand” Biederman’s refusal to respond to critics, because, he said, he wrote 30 academic articles a year, and that meant that he was the authority, and nobody could touch him (he didn’t put it in exactly those words, but I think that was the gyst). So, if we don’t like the look of what they’re doing, we may not scrutinize them?

I don’t think that looks like a very strong system, to me. I also don’t like the way that drugs are routinely farmed (heh! play on words, there!), out, when there doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of evidence that they work, in any sense. I also don’t like the idea that any single person, psychiatrist or otherwise, gets to be the Final Arbiter of Truth, and say what appropriate behaviour is, and to denounce somebody as a witch (sorry, that should read “diagnose somebody as mentally ill”), solely on the ground that they don’t like the solutions that a person has developed for dealing with certain life situations.

Psychiatrists have a very limited view of what is appropriate, I think. Certainly if they follow the line of Joe B.D Mann.

Matt

(Besides, where would one stop weeding out those with whom we disagree or who somehow don’t fit one’s idea of propriety?)

Anyway, I think Claus is tiresome and inappropriate but has claim to airtime until Ed shuts down his mike.

We are a diverse group. But I will wager that every one of us - leftists, rightists, centrists, corporatists, insurers, anti-insurers, and every other epithet in your repertoire (and not in your repertoire) would agree with the sentence above.

If there is anyone not in agreement, please say so.

If not, it is unanimous.

Believe it or not (you won’t), I wish you the best. It’s just that I wish us the best too.
And the best thing for you, and for us, is a long chilling out.