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	<title>Comments on: Lilly To Take $1.4 Billion Charge For Zyprexa Probe</title>
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		<title>By: Salmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Justice. Yes the discussion will continue.

If you know certain things you find there are many 'coincidences' with items that appear in the press or on government or corporate websights. Like why did Jenkins say in March that FDA would miss deadlines and then later it was reported that it was due to safety concerns. Why did the FDA pregnancy and lactation guidance come out in early May. Why did FDA give orphan drug status to teugeride (sp?) for PAH (phen-fen) toxicity on May 15th. Why did the post-marketing suveillence program get issued in late May around the same time Reuters reported a study on older antipsychotics caused more cardiovascular tox than atypicals. Why did Reuters have several reports at the end of May quoting Janet Woodcock that they had gotten the message on safety. Why did Von Eschenbach give an interview to the Israeli press that evening. Why did Grassley announce the probe of Biederman on June 6th Why did on June 6th FDA also come out and file a brief with the supreme court favoring preemption. Why was Grassley involved on the 16th with the hearings on Medicaid costs and pointing out if the GAO assumptions of plateauing of costs was likely erroneous it could really blow the budget long term. Why did the same day did FDA make an announcement about the cardiovascular toxicities of the old antipsychotics but include in the classic list drugs that really are atypicals. Why did FDA announce sign a new agreement between OSE and OND about post marketing monitoring on June 26th. Why did at the same time did Pres Bush issue and EO prohibiting the rehiring of anyone who revealed anything from any government computer e.g. e-mails, etc.. Why did Fred Hassan have a meltdown on the front page of the WSJ on June 30th. Why was there in early July the decision to not issue approvable letters any longer after Aug 10th but only complete response letters. Why did Schering Plough issue the report on Vytorin and Cancer on July 23rd. Why did SP release the quarterly SEC filing 24 hours after Merck late on Friday Aug 1st, which only covered through June 30th. Why is SP's asenapine review delayed when it should have been announced sometime in July or early Aug. Why was Ellis Unger promoted to under Bob Temple on Aug 10th. Why did at the same time the head of FDA's EEO office suddenly move to become head of the VA's FDA's office. Why was tetrabenazine approved on Aug 15th. Why did Lilly announce a cooperative agreement with a small company last week for developing Cialis for treating PAH.

Although I believe I have details that may provide answers and that will connect many dots we will have to wait and see what legal mechanisms are available for revealing them.

Sometimes I feel like the character in 3 Days of the Condor.

Salmon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Justice. Yes the discussion will continue.</p>
<p>If you know certain things you find there are many &#8216;coincidences&#8217; with items that appear in the press or on government or corporate websights. Like why did Jenkins say in March that FDA would miss deadlines and then later it was reported that it was due to safety concerns. Why did the FDA pregnancy and lactation guidance come out in early May. Why did FDA give orphan drug status to teugeride (sp?) for PAH (phen-fen) toxicity on May 15th. Why did the post-marketing suveillence program get issued in late May around the same time Reuters reported a study on older antipsychotics caused more cardiovascular tox than atypicals. Why did Reuters have several reports at the end of May quoting Janet Woodcock that they had gotten the message on safety. Why did Von Eschenbach give an interview to the Israeli press that evening. Why did Grassley announce the probe of Biederman on June 6th Why did on June 6th FDA also come out and file a brief with the supreme court favoring preemption. Why was Grassley involved on the 16th with the hearings on Medicaid costs and pointing out if the GAO assumptions of plateauing of costs was likely erroneous it could really blow the budget long term. Why did the same day did FDA make an announcement about the cardiovascular toxicities of the old antipsychotics but include in the classic list drugs that really are atypicals. Why did FDA announce sign a new agreement between OSE and OND about post marketing monitoring on June 26th. Why did at the same time did Pres Bush issue and EO prohibiting the rehiring of anyone who revealed anything from any government computer e.g. e-mails, etc.. Why did Fred Hassan have a meltdown on the front page of the WSJ on June 30th. Why was there in early July the decision to not issue approvable letters any longer after Aug 10th but only complete response letters. Why did Schering Plough issue the report on Vytorin and Cancer on July 23rd. Why did SP release the quarterly SEC filing 24 hours after Merck late on Friday Aug 1st, which only covered through June 30th. Why is SP&#8217;s asenapine review delayed when it should have been announced sometime in July or early Aug. Why was Ellis Unger promoted to under Bob Temple on Aug 10th. Why did at the same time the head of FDA&#8217;s EEO office suddenly move to become head of the VA&#8217;s FDA&#8217;s office. Why was tetrabenazine approved on Aug 15th. Why did Lilly announce a cooperative agreement with a small company last week for developing Cialis for treating PAH.</p>
<p>Although I believe I have details that may provide answers and that will connect many dots we will have to wait and see what legal mechanisms are available for revealing them.</p>
<p>Sometimes I feel like the character in 3 Days of the Condor.</p>
<p>Salmon</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in Michigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice in Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salmon - I admire your persistence.  I hope we will somewhere else where the discussion can really continue.  

Onward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salmon - I admire your persistence.  I hope we will somewhere else where the discussion can really continue.  </p>
<p>Onward.</p>
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		<title>By: Salmon</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/lilly-to-take-14-billion-charge-for-zyprexa-probe/#comment-386478</link>
		<dc:creator>Salmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

Good question but Zyprexa's diabetes and suicide may be the least of the problems. The 7-OH metabolite appears to be a likely cause of all the phen-fen like cardiac toxicity, shortened life expectancy, spontaneous abortions and birth defects. Note that Sandy Kweder from FDA has stated that FDA's new guidance on drugs in pregnancy and lactation has been under development since 1997 right after Zyprexa got onto the market and when the phen-fen toxicities were announced. As for advanced discussions the Washington Post just this past week ran an article on how a number of companies are trying to come to agreements with the DOJ now before Obama takes office and they could really get nailed under a new Attorney General. Racketeering might not only involve Lilly but also might include a number of FDA officials.

What's also interesting is Bush's recent E.O. on succession planning for a new Attorney General which would likely kick in until Obama's pick could be confirmed.

Salmon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>Good question but Zyprexa&#8217;s diabetes and suicide may be the least of the problems. The 7-OH metabolite appears to be a likely cause of all the phen-fen like cardiac toxicity, shortened life expectancy, spontaneous abortions and birth defects. Note that Sandy Kweder from FDA has stated that FDA&#8217;s new guidance on drugs in pregnancy and lactation has been under development since 1997 right after Zyprexa got onto the market and when the phen-fen toxicities were announced. As for advanced discussions the Washington Post just this past week ran an article on how a number of companies are trying to come to agreements with the DOJ now before Obama takes office and they could really get nailed under a new Attorney General. Racketeering might not only involve Lilly but also might include a number of FDA officials.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s also interesting is Bush&#8217;s recent E.O. on succession planning for a new Attorney General which would likely kick in until Obama&#8217;s pick could be confirmed.</p>
<p>Salmon</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's curious is that there is no mention of the adverse events report from the FDA. Some 150 patients attempted suicide. Further, some 150 completed suicide in the the first three years Zyprexa was introduced in the market:1997-2000.

One has to wonder why Zyprexa wasn't pulled from the market then. Just how many patients have to die from this deadly, legal drug?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s curious is that there is no mention of the adverse events report from the FDA. Some 150 patients attempted suicide. Further, some 150 completed suicide in the the first three years Zyprexa was introduced in the market:1997-2000.</p>
<p>One has to wonder why Zyprexa wasn&#8217;t pulled from the market then. Just how many patients have to die from this deadly, legal drug?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did someone forget something ? What about the rest of the cases still pending that need to be settled ? Medicaid and Medicare didn't get injured , the injured people should get paid first then the insurances can get paid later . A lot of us is in debt waiting for our settlements to come . It seems like everyone-else is being settled except for the injured . The attorneys are getting paid . What about my settlement ,what about other people's settlements ? THE INJURED NEED TO BE PAID FIRST !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did someone forget something ? What about the rest of the cases still pending that need to be settled ? Medicaid and Medicare didn&#8217;t get injured , the injured people should get paid first then the insurances can get paid later . A lot of us is in debt waiting for our settlements to come . It seems like everyone-else is being settled except for the injured . The attorneys are getting paid . What about my settlement ,what about other people&#8217;s settlements ? THE INJURED NEED TO BE PAID FIRST !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dona Wheeler/Roanoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dona Wheeler/Roanoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a begining, and we must remain positive and viligant in our thoughts and deeds to whit that the days when a drug can just be put out there, with little thought to the end result. One "good thing" about the bad economy is that more and more kids will be on state patrolls, and the money just ain't there like it was. And the bad taste in some's mouth from what just went down with Lilly, could be the warning, and the example.
 I took Zyprexa, gained massive amounts of weight, and lost my family, as I was not "Normal".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a begining, and we must remain positive and viligant in our thoughts and deeds to whit that the days when a drug can just be put out there, with little thought to the end result. One &#8220;good thing&#8221; about the bad economy is that more and more kids will be on state patrolls, and the money just ain&#8217;t there like it was. And the bad taste in some&#8217;s mouth from what just went down with Lilly, could be the warning, and the example.<br />
 I took Zyprexa, gained massive amounts of weight, and lost my family, as I was not &#8220;Normal&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Haszard</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/lilly-to-take-14-billion-charge-for-zyprexa-probe/#comment-378915</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Haszard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eli Lilly stalling on Zyprexa claims!
 
My chief complaint with the Zyprexa issue is,Lilly's credibility over their continuous propaganda on how they are going to pay out $1.2 billion in damages.

 As long as they keep up this rhetoric and don't actually pay the issue won't go away. They need to think about 'putting their money where their mouth is'.
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All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men/women to do nothing-Danny Haszard Bangor Maine   http://www.zyprexa-victims.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eli Lilly stalling on Zyprexa claims!</p>
<p>My chief complaint with the Zyprexa issue is,Lilly&#8217;s credibility over their continuous propaganda on how they are going to pay out $1.2 billion in damages.</p>
<p> As long as they keep up this rhetoric and don&#8217;t actually pay the issue won&#8217;t go away. They need to think about &#8216;putting their money where their mouth is&#8217;.<br />
 &#8212;-<br />
All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men/women to do nothing-Danny Haszard Bangor Maine   <a href="http://www.zyprexa-victims.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zyprexa-victims.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Request</title>
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		<dc:creator>Request</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CEOs, current and past, need to be held accountable for their actions!  Letting them off with a fine and admitting no wrongdoing is wrong.  make them pay personal fines and throw them in jail.  Only then will we have a hope that the American public will not be lied to again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CEOs, current and past, need to be held accountable for their actions!  Letting them off with a fine and admitting no wrongdoing is wrong.  make them pay personal fines and throw them in jail.  Only then will we have a hope that the American public will not be lied to again.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/lilly-to-take-14-billion-charge-for-zyprexa-probe/#comment-378856</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, consider youself lucky . In OZ the Doctors give Zyprexa to kids then ignore side effects and call it psychosis....some kids with Epilepsey get the double whammy...Zyprexa and Valporate...Zyprexa gives them fits hence the valporate which then gives the cancer.

Australian Psychiatric practice is akin to an experiment with other peoples kids enforce
enforced by State govts and welfare lobbies.

And guess who supports the School of Psychiatry....Eli Lilly of course.
Welcome to the land down under with a third world Mental Health System with ethics to match...none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, consider youself lucky . In OZ the Doctors give Zyprexa to kids then ignore side effects and call it psychosis&#8230;.some kids with Epilepsey get the double whammy&#8230;Zyprexa and Valporate&#8230;Zyprexa gives them fits hence the valporate which then gives the cancer.</p>
<p>Australian Psychiatric practice is akin to an experiment with other peoples kids enforce<br />
enforced by State govts and welfare lobbies.</p>
<p>And guess who supports the School of Psychiatry&#8230;.Eli Lilly of course.<br />
Welcome to the land down under with a third world Mental Health System with ethics to match&#8230;none.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No tossing and turning in those beds!  Their souls have been signed, sealed and delivered to the devil years ago.  When they decided that making money was more important that people.  It is indeed a sad statement about America when these individuals are not prosecuted, fined and jailed!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No tossing and turning in those beds!  Their souls have been signed, sealed and delivered to the devil years ago.  When they decided that making money was more important that people.  It is indeed a sad statement about America when these individuals are not prosecuted, fined and jailed!!!!</p>
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