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	<title>Comments on: Nemeroff Steps Down As Emory Psychiatry Chair</title>
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		<title>By: Yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 04:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenn--Look at the record.  There is probably no scoundrel in history (including the most infamous) who have not helped someone, at some point along the way.  To imagine otherwise is, to me, naive.

"Nemeroff didn’t do anything that anyone else doesn’t do as well."

Thanks God you're wrong about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenn&#8211;Look at the record.  There is probably no scoundrel in history (including the most infamous) who have not helped someone, at some point along the way.  To imagine otherwise is, to me, naive.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nemeroff didn’t do anything that anyone else doesn’t do as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks God you&#8217;re wrong about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 03:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find these comments to be a little naive.  I've never worked in any industry where compromises weren't made for the sake of funding.  Anyone familiar with grants knows there is a big difference between grantwriting to get funds, and actually doing the research one really wants to do, and doing some "tailoring" to make it happen.  Same thing here.  Nemeroff didn't do anything that anyone else doesn't do as well.  Research requires funding, and there is no magic research supporting money tree.  

My old roommate in law school had debilitating depression that escalated in our 2nd year.  She was able to see Nemeroff at that time, and I truly think he saved her future.  I've seen my untreated, wretched, hoping to die depressive aunt who has never received good treatment, and I compare that to my old roommate, who did get good treatment from Nemeroff &#38; lives a very functional life.   That's the biggest compliment I can give to a doctor, and I don't really care what paperwork he fudged to get help to suffering people.  That is the nature of chairing any department.  Some awareness of how the real world works should be required before flogging the man's credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find these comments to be a little naive.  I&#8217;ve never worked in any industry where compromises weren&#8217;t made for the sake of funding.  Anyone familiar with grants knows there is a big difference between grantwriting to get funds, and actually doing the research one really wants to do, and doing some &#8220;tailoring&#8221; to make it happen.  Same thing here.  Nemeroff didn&#8217;t do anything that anyone else doesn&#8217;t do as well.  Research requires funding, and there is no magic research supporting money tree.  </p>
<p>My old roommate in law school had debilitating depression that escalated in our 2nd year.  She was able to see Nemeroff at that time, and I truly think he saved her future.  I&#8217;ve seen my untreated, wretched, hoping to die depressive aunt who has never received good treatment, and I compare that to my old roommate, who did get good treatment from Nemeroff &amp; lives a very functional life.   That&#8217;s the biggest compliment I can give to a doctor, and I don&#8217;t really care what paperwork he fudged to get help to suffering people.  That is the nature of chairing any department.  Some awareness of how the real world works should be required before flogging the man&#8217;s credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Travel Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travel Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!</description>
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		<title>By: Kathy Shepard</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/nemeroff-steps-down-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-448884</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Shepard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay McMahon!  If this is the same Dr. Jay McMahon that served in Meridian MS, "Hello ShipMate!"  You were a great Doc in the Navy, hope all is well!   Sorry for the inappropriate blog, but life is too short not to reach out and say "Thank You".
Kathy Shepard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay McMahon!  If this is the same Dr. Jay McMahon that served in Meridian MS, &#8220;Hello ShipMate!&#8221;  You were a great Doc in the Navy, hope all is well!   Sorry for the inappropriate blog, but life is too short not to reach out and say &#8220;Thank You&#8221;.<br />
Kathy Shepard</p>
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		<title>By: Reiki Bliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reiki Bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Really Love Reading Your Blog. Excellent. Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Really Love Reading Your Blog. Excellent. Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dimension C521</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimension C521</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay: Since,on 1/23/08 Dr. Nemeroff was permanently relieved of his position as head of department at Emory, presumably these are not groundless accusations. No need to "presume innocence" any further.

Clay: You've remarked that Charlie Nemeroff has some (vast) amount of talent as a practicing clinician, which -- though both interesting and quite wonderful for you --really has diddly-squat to do with the issues of non-disclosure of $$$ from Pharma or COI (conflict of interest). Given this remarkable skill, perhaps he ought to limit  to working directly one-on-one with patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay: Since,on 1/23/08 Dr. Nemeroff was permanently relieved of his position as head of department at Emory, presumably these are not groundless accusations. No need to &#8220;presume innocence&#8221; any further.</p>
<p>Clay: You&#8217;ve remarked that Charlie Nemeroff has some (vast) amount of talent as a practicing clinician, which &#8212; though both interesting and quite wonderful for you &#8211;really has diddly-squat to do with the issues of non-disclosure of $$$ from Pharma or COI (conflict of interest). Given this remarkable skill, perhaps he ought to limit  to working directly one-on-one with patients.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the presumption of innocence is certainly lost in this case. For a moment let's give Charley what he deserves the presumption of innocence and look without tainted vision at the quality clinician that should not be suspect to anyone. It is alot easier to find a good accountant then a great clinician/doctor. If in fact he is guilty of what is reported, it should not wipeout decades of good work. I am not condoning nor judging but the heart of this rampant problem must be addressed from university presidents on down. Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the presumption of innocence is certainly lost in this case. For a moment let&#8217;s give Charley what he deserves the presumption of innocence and look without tainted vision at the quality clinician that should not be suspect to anyone. It is alot easier to find a good accountant then a great clinician/doctor. If in fact he is guilty of what is reported, it should not wipeout decades of good work. I am not condoning nor judging but the heart of this rampant problem must be addressed from university presidents on down. Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Shariles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shariles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Otay Clay! sounds like you're a classic case of too many or not enough drugs. 

For a newbie 'too busy for the boards' you seem to  be practiced in the obvious ways of the debunkers aka trolls. 

You shouldn't have any trouble connecting with Precious, he voluntarily stepped down-more time to spend with his family and his patients he practices on/with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otay Clay! sounds like you&#8217;re a classic case of too many or not enough drugs. </p>
<p>For a newbie &#8216;too busy for the boards&#8217; you seem to  be practiced in the obvious ways of the debunkers aka trolls. </p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t have any trouble connecting with Precious, he voluntarily stepped down-more time to spend with his family and his patients he practices on/with.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harpy, it's not for my sake that Charlie Nemeroff should continue practicing. He has helped me deal with my depression and I have been able to live a reasonably happy and productive life for years now.  The reason you and others should hope he doesn't stop practicing is so that he can continue to help the countless folks who suffer from debilitating depression and/or other devastating mental health issues and have so far not found a doctor and a treatment that enables them to cope. 

As for the "overwhelming evidence".....overwhelming to whom? Not to me.  Just because Sen. Grassley issues statements and publishes what he says is proof of Dr. N's perfidy doesn't mean I buy into his accusations, much less find myself overwhelmed by them.  I am not appointing myself jury, judge, and executioner;  instead, I prefer to wait until both sides have presented all their evidence, had it minutely examined and  evaluated, and only then will I reach my decision on Dr. N's financial dealings. 

And as for "expanding my definitions" : Nope, I value high standards, sound ethics, and solid character, and if the time comes when I can't find a skilled physician who also meets these criteria, then I'll know it's time to stop going to doctors.

Finally, I just have to ask:  Why do folks like you and all the other bloggers on this site, except for Jay McMahon, choose not to sign off with your first and last names?  I only belong to one webring, but we sign our names when we send in our posts and do not obscure our identities with initials, partial names, or "nicknames".  Why won't you and the others stand up (so to speak), speak your piece, and sign your correct name to it?

Clay Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harpy, it&#8217;s not for my sake that Charlie Nemeroff should continue practicing. He has helped me deal with my depression and I have been able to live a reasonably happy and productive life for years now.  The reason you and others should hope he doesn&#8217;t stop practicing is so that he can continue to help the countless folks who suffer from debilitating depression and/or other devastating mental health issues and have so far not found a doctor and a treatment that enables them to cope. </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;overwhelming evidence&#8221;&#8230;..overwhelming to whom? Not to me.  Just because Sen. Grassley issues statements and publishes what he says is proof of Dr. N&#8217;s perfidy doesn&#8217;t mean I buy into his accusations, much less find myself overwhelmed by them.  I am not appointing myself jury, judge, and executioner;  instead, I prefer to wait until both sides have presented all their evidence, had it minutely examined and  evaluated, and only then will I reach my decision on Dr. N&#8217;s financial dealings. </p>
<p>And as for &#8220;expanding my definitions&#8221; : Nope, I value high standards, sound ethics, and solid character, and if the time comes when I can&#8217;t find a skilled physician who also meets these criteria, then I&#8217;ll know it&#8217;s time to stop going to doctors.</p>
<p>Finally, I just have to ask:  Why do folks like you and all the other bloggers on this site, except for Jay McMahon, choose not to sign off with your first and last names?  I only belong to one webring, but we sign our names when we send in our posts and do not obscure our identities with initials, partial names, or &#8220;nicknames&#8221;.  Why won&#8217;t you and the others stand up (so to speak), speak your piece, and sign your correct name to it?</p>
<p>Clay Terry</p>
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		<title>By: harpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>harpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"&lt;i&gt;No, Harpy, I don’t believe that one can be a good doctor and be corrupt. In my book, being a practicing “good doctor” (or in the case of Dr. Nemeroff, an outstanding doctor and healer)means being a person who takes the Hippocratic Oath seriously and maintains strict ethical standards. That definition definitely does NOT include someone who is corrupt.&lt;/i&gt;"

Then I can understand why this overwhelming evidence must be very hard for you.  However, you may need to expand your definitions.  For your sake, I hope he doesn't stop practicing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>No, Harpy, I don’t believe that one can be a good doctor and be corrupt. In my book, being a practicing “good doctor” (or in the case of Dr. Nemeroff, an outstanding doctor and healer)means being a person who takes the Hippocratic Oath seriously and maintains strict ethical standards. That definition definitely does NOT include someone who is corrupt.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Then I can understand why this overwhelming evidence must be very hard for you.  However, you may need to expand your definitions.  For your sake, I hope he doesn&#8217;t stop practicing.</p>
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