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		<description>Great post!</description>
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		<title>By: Kathy Shepard</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay McMahon!  If this is the same Dr. Jay McMahon that served in Meridian MS, "Hello ShipMate!"  You were a great Doc in the Navy, hope all is well!   Sorry for the inappropriate blog, but life is too short not to reach out and say "Thank You".
Kathy Shepard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay McMahon!  If this is the same Dr. Jay McMahon that served in Meridian MS, &#8220;Hello ShipMate!&#8221;  You were a great Doc in the Navy, hope all is well!   Sorry for the inappropriate blog, but life is too short not to reach out and say &#8220;Thank You&#8221;.<br />
Kathy Shepard</p>
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		<title>By: Reiki Bliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reiki Bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Really Love Reading Your Blog. Excellent. Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Really Love Reading Your Blog. Excellent. Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dimension C521</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimension C521</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay: Since,on 1/23/08 Dr. Nemeroff was permanently relieved of his position as head of department at Emory, presumably these are not groundless accusations. No need to "presume innocence" any further.

Clay: You've remarked that Charlie Nemeroff has some (vast) amount of talent as a practicing clinician, which -- though both interesting and quite wonderful for you --really has diddly-squat to do with the issues of non-disclosure of $$$ from Pharma or COI (conflict of interest). Given this remarkable skill, perhaps he ought to limit  to working directly one-on-one with patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay: Since,on 1/23/08 Dr. Nemeroff was permanently relieved of his position as head of department at Emory, presumably these are not groundless accusations. No need to &#8220;presume innocence&#8221; any further.</p>
<p>Clay: You&#8217;ve remarked that Charlie Nemeroff has some (vast) amount of talent as a practicing clinician, which &#8212; though both interesting and quite wonderful for you &#8211;really has diddly-squat to do with the issues of non-disclosure of $$$ from Pharma or COI (conflict of interest). Given this remarkable skill, perhaps he ought to limit  to working directly one-on-one with patients.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the presumption of innocence is certainly lost in this case. For a moment let's give Charley what he deserves the presumption of innocence and look without tainted vision at the quality clinician that should not be suspect to anyone. It is alot easier to find a good accountant then a great clinician/doctor. If in fact he is guilty of what is reported, it should not wipeout decades of good work. I am not condoning nor judging but the heart of this rampant problem must be addressed from university presidents on down. Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the presumption of innocence is certainly lost in this case. For a moment let&#8217;s give Charley what he deserves the presumption of innocence and look without tainted vision at the quality clinician that should not be suspect to anyone. It is alot easier to find a good accountant then a great clinician/doctor. If in fact he is guilty of what is reported, it should not wipeout decades of good work. I am not condoning nor judging but the heart of this rampant problem must be addressed from university presidents on down. Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Shariles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shariles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Otay Clay! sounds like you're a classic case of too many or not enough drugs. 

For a newbie 'too busy for the boards' you seem to  be practiced in the obvious ways of the debunkers aka trolls. 

You shouldn't have any trouble connecting with Precious, he voluntarily stepped down-more time to spend with his family and his patients he practices on/with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otay Clay! sounds like you&#8217;re a classic case of too many or not enough drugs. </p>
<p>For a newbie &#8216;too busy for the boards&#8217; you seem to  be practiced in the obvious ways of the debunkers aka trolls. </p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t have any trouble connecting with Precious, he voluntarily stepped down-more time to spend with his family and his patients he practices on/with.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harpy, it's not for my sake that Charlie Nemeroff should continue practicing. He has helped me deal with my depression and I have been able to live a reasonably happy and productive life for years now.  The reason you and others should hope he doesn't stop practicing is so that he can continue to help the countless folks who suffer from debilitating depression and/or other devastating mental health issues and have so far not found a doctor and a treatment that enables them to cope. 

As for the "overwhelming evidence".....overwhelming to whom? Not to me.  Just because Sen. Grassley issues statements and publishes what he says is proof of Dr. N's perfidy doesn't mean I buy into his accusations, much less find myself overwhelmed by them.  I am not appointing myself jury, judge, and executioner;  instead, I prefer to wait until both sides have presented all their evidence, had it minutely examined and  evaluated, and only then will I reach my decision on Dr. N's financial dealings. 

And as for "expanding my definitions" : Nope, I value high standards, sound ethics, and solid character, and if the time comes when I can't find a skilled physician who also meets these criteria, then I'll know it's time to stop going to doctors.

Finally, I just have to ask:  Why do folks like you and all the other bloggers on this site, except for Jay McMahon, choose not to sign off with your first and last names?  I only belong to one webring, but we sign our names when we send in our posts and do not obscure our identities with initials, partial names, or "nicknames".  Why won't you and the others stand up (so to speak), speak your piece, and sign your correct name to it?

Clay Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harpy, it&#8217;s not for my sake that Charlie Nemeroff should continue practicing. He has helped me deal with my depression and I have been able to live a reasonably happy and productive life for years now.  The reason you and others should hope he doesn&#8217;t stop practicing is so that he can continue to help the countless folks who suffer from debilitating depression and/or other devastating mental health issues and have so far not found a doctor and a treatment that enables them to cope. </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;overwhelming evidence&#8221;&#8230;..overwhelming to whom? Not to me.  Just because Sen. Grassley issues statements and publishes what he says is proof of Dr. N&#8217;s perfidy doesn&#8217;t mean I buy into his accusations, much less find myself overwhelmed by them.  I am not appointing myself jury, judge, and executioner;  instead, I prefer to wait until both sides have presented all their evidence, had it minutely examined and  evaluated, and only then will I reach my decision on Dr. N&#8217;s financial dealings. </p>
<p>And as for &#8220;expanding my definitions&#8221; : Nope, I value high standards, sound ethics, and solid character, and if the time comes when I can&#8217;t find a skilled physician who also meets these criteria, then I&#8217;ll know it&#8217;s time to stop going to doctors.</p>
<p>Finally, I just have to ask:  Why do folks like you and all the other bloggers on this site, except for Jay McMahon, choose not to sign off with your first and last names?  I only belong to one webring, but we sign our names when we send in our posts and do not obscure our identities with initials, partial names, or &#8220;nicknames&#8221;.  Why won&#8217;t you and the others stand up (so to speak), speak your piece, and sign your correct name to it?</p>
<p>Clay Terry</p>
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		<title>By: harpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>harpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"&lt;i&gt;No, Harpy, I don’t believe that one can be a good doctor and be corrupt. In my book, being a practicing “good doctor” (or in the case of Dr. Nemeroff, an outstanding doctor and healer)means being a person who takes the Hippocratic Oath seriously and maintains strict ethical standards. That definition definitely does NOT include someone who is corrupt.&lt;/i&gt;"

Then I can understand why this overwhelming evidence must be very hard for you.  However, you may need to expand your definitions.  For your sake, I hope he doesn't stop practicing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>No, Harpy, I don’t believe that one can be a good doctor and be corrupt. In my book, being a practicing “good doctor” (or in the case of Dr. Nemeroff, an outstanding doctor and healer)means being a person who takes the Hippocratic Oath seriously and maintains strict ethical standards. That definition definitely does NOT include someone who is corrupt.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Then I can understand why this overwhelming evidence must be very hard for you.  However, you may need to expand your definitions.  For your sake, I hope he doesn&#8217;t stop practicing.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Clay Terry, not Tay Clerry, although I actually quite like what you did with my name. I did not see where you had signed your name, so I guess you might be one of the bloggers who doesn't feel that signing your full name to your statements is of any importance. As for what Charlie Nemeroff did to help me and all the other folks whose lives he has saved and then turned around, the answer is simple:  He was able to reach us when no one else could and convince us that our depression could and would abate and that we would actually have lives worth living. No, he did not augment with "some samE" or "do some Reiki";  he used his standard treatment that involves talk therapy, the appropriate  prescription drug (yes,sometimes it takes trying a few to hit the right one)and the patient's willingness to tackle his/her depression.  What he has that none of the other doctors, therapists, or counselors I saw in my first 20 years of seeking treatment is an astounding ability to "connect" with the most depressed and/or disturbed individuals and help them turn their lives around.  He has done this with countless patients who, like me, have spent years trying (and failing) to get the help that will enable us to deal successfully with our mental health problems.  As you said, diagnosing depression and then prescribing a drug to treat it is something psychiatrists, internists, and even GPs do every day, or as you put it ,"just a doc doing his job."  The striking thing about dealing with Charlie Nemeroff is that his patients DON'T feel he's "just a doc doing his job".  We feel that he is someone who actually connects with us in our darkest hours and guides us out of the abyss and into a position where we can reclaim our lives.  The other thing he does is that he never, ever disconnects with a patient;  he is always there for his patients, even when  it involves answering his phone in the middle of the night. My Effexor is great, but it is no substitute for being able to speak to a caring, competent professional who can ease a very troubled mind and help one learn to live an enjoyable and productive life.

In short (ha! not one of my strong points), I believe there are plenty of competent doctors just doing there jobs and then there are the few phenomenal healers who regularly and  successfully deal with the absolute worst cases within their specialty.  Charlie Nemeroff is among the latter.  While you view him as a "top-level conniver swindler con artist" (seems like you harbor a mighty deep dislike, verging on hatred,  for Dr. N.....have you considered therapy to help you deal with these feelings??), I and the countless other folks he has helped view him as the "doc of last resort" for resolving our debilitating mental health issues. Is it too  much for those of you who are competent doctors/therapists to acknowledge that there are a few exceptionally gifted healers who can help the seemingly hopeless cases?

Regardless, my short-lived venture into blogging has been interesting, informative, and invigorating! I don't have the time to be a regular blogger, but congratulations to those of you who do.

Clay Terry aka Tay Clerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Clay Terry, not Tay Clerry, although I actually quite like what you did with my name. I did not see where you had signed your name, so I guess you might be one of the bloggers who doesn&#8217;t feel that signing your full name to your statements is of any importance. As for what Charlie Nemeroff did to help me and all the other folks whose lives he has saved and then turned around, the answer is simple:  He was able to reach us when no one else could and convince us that our depression could and would abate and that we would actually have lives worth living. No, he did not augment with &#8220;some samE&#8221; or &#8220;do some Reiki&#8221;;  he used his standard treatment that involves talk therapy, the appropriate  prescription drug (yes,sometimes it takes trying a few to hit the right one)and the patient&#8217;s willingness to tackle his/her depression.  What he has that none of the other doctors, therapists, or counselors I saw in my first 20 years of seeking treatment is an astounding ability to &#8220;connect&#8221; with the most depressed and/or disturbed individuals and help them turn their lives around.  He has done this with countless patients who, like me, have spent years trying (and failing) to get the help that will enable us to deal successfully with our mental health problems.  As you said, diagnosing depression and then prescribing a drug to treat it is something psychiatrists, internists, and even GPs do every day, or as you put it ,&#8221;just a doc doing his job.&#8221;  The striking thing about dealing with Charlie Nemeroff is that his patients DON&#8217;T feel he&#8217;s &#8220;just a doc doing his job&#8221;.  We feel that he is someone who actually connects with us in our darkest hours and guides us out of the abyss and into a position where we can reclaim our lives.  The other thing he does is that he never, ever disconnects with a patient;  he is always there for his patients, even when  it involves answering his phone in the middle of the night. My Effexor is great, but it is no substitute for being able to speak to a caring, competent professional who can ease a very troubled mind and help one learn to live an enjoyable and productive life.</p>
<p>In short (ha! not one of my strong points), I believe there are plenty of competent doctors just doing there jobs and then there are the few phenomenal healers who regularly and  successfully deal with the absolute worst cases within their specialty.  Charlie Nemeroff is among the latter.  While you view him as a &#8220;top-level conniver swindler con artist&#8221; (seems like you harbor a mighty deep dislike, verging on hatred,  for Dr. N&#8230;..have you considered therapy to help you deal with these feelings??), I and the countless other folks he has helped view him as the &#8220;doc of last resort&#8221; for resolving our debilitating mental health issues. Is it too  much for those of you who are competent doctors/therapists to acknowledge that there are a few exceptionally gifted healers who can help the seemingly hopeless cases?</p>
<p>Regardless, my short-lived venture into blogging has been interesting, informative, and invigorating! I don&#8217;t have the time to be a regular blogger, but congratulations to those of you who do.</p>
<p>Clay Terry aka Tay Clerry</p>
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		<title>By: TayClerry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tay: tell us exactly what Nemeroff did to resolve your problems. I believe he caused great harm to others under the guise of helpful research. There are pages and pages of evidence making the case that he is, and that he has done dastardly things. For starters, he was heavily involved in ignoring / masking the suicide side effects of antidepressants until, finally, the evidence was so staggering that the FDA put the black box warnings on SSRIs.

You discovered a doc that was able to provide treatment for your depression.

Please, at this moment, as we all finally discover what we suspect and/or know has been ungoing, extensive corruption, please tell us the miracles worked by Dr. Nemeroff on your behalf.

But first: let me make this note: it is no amazing feat to make a diagnosis of depression: many of us are able to detect depression day in and day out. If any mental health clinician cannot detect depression, then it is time to get some non-Pharma-sponsored CME and get some book-larnin'. Depression is often referred to as the 'common cold' of psychiatry. Therefore, to have a doc diagnose a case of depression is not a big deal. Second: what amazing treatment did he offer? Docs across the nation routinely start with an SSRI. Many are comfortable in switching to any one of several meds if the first does not work. Docs are also very familiar with augmenting and/or doing some polypharmacy, however you want to describe it.

This is no magic. It is bread and butter of depression treatment. So, bottom line: many of us are familiar with mental health, treatment, and science. To you, as a person with depression, I understand that the guy who brought you some cure is a great guy, in your eyes. But chances are he was just a doc doing his job. Unless you can share something here that will reveal some magic done by the doc.

Did he augment with some samE? Did he do some Reiki? Please tell us so we can know what insight he had that was so different from mainstream psychiatry, as you have asserted. Otherwise the rest of us will carry on with our grateful amazement that for once a top-level conniver swindler con artist has been caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tay: tell us exactly what Nemeroff did to resolve your problems. I believe he caused great harm to others under the guise of helpful research. There are pages and pages of evidence making the case that he is, and that he has done dastardly things. For starters, he was heavily involved in ignoring / masking the suicide side effects of antidepressants until, finally, the evidence was so staggering that the FDA put the black box warnings on SSRIs.</p>
<p>You discovered a doc that was able to provide treatment for your depression.</p>
<p>Please, at this moment, as we all finally discover what we suspect and/or know has been ungoing, extensive corruption, please tell us the miracles worked by Dr. Nemeroff on your behalf.</p>
<p>But first: let me make this note: it is no amazing feat to make a diagnosis of depression: many of us are able to detect depression day in and day out. If any mental health clinician cannot detect depression, then it is time to get some non-Pharma-sponsored CME and get some book-larnin&#8217;. Depression is often referred to as the &#8216;common cold&#8217; of psychiatry. Therefore, to have a doc diagnose a case of depression is not a big deal. Second: what amazing treatment did he offer? Docs across the nation routinely start with an SSRI. Many are comfortable in switching to any one of several meds if the first does not work. Docs are also very familiar with augmenting and/or doing some polypharmacy, however you want to describe it.</p>
<p>This is no magic. It is bread and butter of depression treatment. So, bottom line: many of us are familiar with mental health, treatment, and science. To you, as a person with depression, I understand that the guy who brought you some cure is a great guy, in your eyes. But chances are he was just a doc doing his job. Unless you can share something here that will reveal some magic done by the doc.</p>
<p>Did he augment with some samE? Did he do some Reiki? Please tell us so we can know what insight he had that was so different from mainstream psychiatry, as you have asserted. Otherwise the rest of us will carry on with our grateful amazement that for once a top-level conniver swindler con artist has been caught.</p>
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