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	<title>Comments on: The Bush Strategy For Pushing Preemption</title>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/the-bush-strategy-for-pushing-preemption/#comment-381223</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bush doesn't know what he's doing. All these drug companies are making people seriously ill instead of better. I have a friend that's still waiting on a settlement from Eli Lilly,which lined Mr. Bush's pockets. Mr. Bush does not care about anyone. He's part of the zyprexa team that's responsible for people getting diabetes and/or dying. Seriously people, look it up and see for yourselves who is on Eli Lilly so- called payroll (who's getting money from that drug company and for what). OBAMA is our President now and things are going to get better for us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bush doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s doing. All these drug companies are making people seriously ill instead of better. I have a friend that&#8217;s still waiting on a settlement from Eli Lilly,which lined Mr. Bush&#8217;s pockets. Mr. Bush does not care about anyone. He&#8217;s part of the zyprexa team that&#8217;s responsible for people getting diabetes and/or dying. Seriously people, look it up and see for yourselves who is on Eli Lilly so- called payroll (who&#8217;s getting money from that drug company and for what). OBAMA is our President now and things are going to get better for us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/the-bush-strategy-for-pushing-preemption/#comment-378290</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meg - I concur with your overall assessment. 

Whoever is Commish, there are a series of positions on down that will be harder to change.  My limited study of FDA - like other large organizations - suggests that there is only so much a Commish can do to impact the organizational culture as a whole.  But whatever that leader does, it has to be clear, definitive, and deadly serious.  "Shmoozing around" will get us nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meg - I concur with your overall assessment. </p>
<p>Whoever is Commish, there are a series of positions on down that will be harder to change.  My limited study of FDA - like other large organizations - suggests that there is only so much a Commish can do to impact the organizational culture as a whole.  But whatever that leader does, it has to be clear, definitive, and deadly serious.  &#8220;Shmoozing around&#8221; will get us nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Justice in MI.  I don't know how egregious the behavior has been in other regulatory agencies under President Bush, but having observed the FDA and studied it closely and testified before it, I am wont to say that its powers have been gutted and hundreds of thousands of individuals killed due to its "conflict of interest".

Some have proposed Howard Dean as a follow up to Dr. Eschenbach's charade.  It will be interesting to see how quickly the FDA's crooked culture can be turned around. And whether everyone there now in an appointed position gets off scott free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Justice in MI.  I don&#8217;t know how egregious the behavior has been in other regulatory agencies under President Bush, but having observed the FDA and studied it closely and testified before it, I am wont to say that its powers have been gutted and hundreds of thousands of individuals killed due to its &#8220;conflict of interest&#8221;.</p>
<p>Some have proposed Howard Dean as a follow up to Dr. Eschenbach&#8217;s charade.  It will be interesting to see how quickly the FDA&#8217;s crooked culture can be turned around. And whether everyone there now in an appointed position gets off scott free.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/the-bush-strategy-for-pushing-preemption/#comment-378249</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to Dianne's commment, the key issue in Michigan is the state Senate which has a 1-2 vote majority against rescinding our law, and thus has been able to kill repeal in committee.  As elsewhere conveyed, the state itself is about 70-30 against preemption.

The problem that Congress will have, should this cross-the-board preemption be upheld, has to do with the relationship between agency rule-making and Congressional oversight.  Thus, even a very large majority in Congress against these directions would not have an easy time, as Ed's summary suggests.

In my view, the most important first step of a President and Congress concerned with maintaining civil liability would be to replace the top management of every regulatory agency involved.  This often happens with new administrations in any event.

I would then follow with hearings featuring representatives of those agencies, and some in industry, who have the experience and competence to describe what the realities of the regulatory process are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to Dianne&#8217;s commment, the key issue in Michigan is the state Senate which has a 1-2 vote majority against rescinding our law, and thus has been able to kill repeal in committee.  As elsewhere conveyed, the state itself is about 70-30 against preemption.</p>
<p>The problem that Congress will have, should this cross-the-board preemption be upheld, has to do with the relationship between agency rule-making and Congressional oversight.  Thus, even a very large majority in Congress against these directions would not have an easy time, as Ed&#8217;s summary suggests.</p>
<p>In my view, the most important first step of a President and Congress concerned with maintaining civil liability would be to replace the top management of every regulatory agency involved.  This often happens with new administrations in any event.</p>
<p>I would then follow with hearings featuring representatives of those agencies, and some in industry, who have the experience and competence to describe what the realities of the regulatory process are.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/the-bush-strategy-for-pushing-preemption/#comment-378247</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phrase (and caveat), “These new rules can’t quickly be undone by order of the next president …,” is worth noting.

Michigan has not been able to rescind its 1995 Drug Immunity Law that stripped citizens of their basic civil right of due process in claims against drug manufacturers, even though a 2007 House bill was passed to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phrase (and caveat), “These new rules can’t quickly be undone by order of the next president …,” is worth noting.</p>
<p>Michigan has not been able to rescind its 1995 Drug Immunity Law that stripped citizens of their basic civil right of due process in claims against drug manufacturers, even though a 2007 House bill was passed to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more time, it is worth repeating that the "50 different standards" argument is pure horse hockey (if horse hockey can be pure).

The FDA and civil liability carried on for many years with no problems with over alleged "conflicting standards."  In the drug arena, that is because it remains the exclusive province of FDA to change labeling, approve or withdraw a drug, etc..  

There are rare instances - and Levine may be one - in which a state court directly challenges FDA's determinations.  In the vast majority of instances, however, the issue is not what FDA did or did not do.  It is whether a company acted such that FDA _could_ do its regulatory job and that FDA _did_ review the relevant risk at issue.


So it's not about conflicting standards.  It is about actual regulation on one side, and the presence of absence of negligence - from mild to felonious - on the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more time, it is worth repeating that the &#8220;50 different standards&#8221; argument is pure horse hockey (if horse hockey can be pure).</p>
<p>The FDA and civil liability carried on for many years with no problems with over alleged &#8220;conflicting standards.&#8221;  In the drug arena, that is because it remains the exclusive province of FDA to change labeling, approve or withdraw a drug, etc..  </p>
<p>There are rare instances - and Levine may be one - in which a state court directly challenges FDA&#8217;s determinations.  In the vast majority of instances, however, the issue is not what FDA did or did not do.  It is whether a company acted such that FDA _could_ do its regulatory job and that FDA _did_ review the relevant risk at issue.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not about conflicting standards.  It is about actual regulation on one side, and the presence of absence of negligence - from mild to felonious - on the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/the-bush-strategy-for-pushing-preemption/#comment-378223</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mission accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mission accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: greg b</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/10/the-bush-strategy-for-pushing-preemption/#comment-378146</link>
		<dc:creator>greg b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another clear example of poor leadership and failing to protect the public in favor of special interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another clear example of poor leadership and failing to protect the public in favor of special interests.</p>
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