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By: john07

john07 — Sun, 24 May 2009 05:42:30 +0000

It Is expensive & can be afforded by some people only so finally i want to avoid it.

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john

adults only

By: Lisa Van S

Lisa Van S — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:37:21 +0000

KC,

I agree 100%,.. Pretty tough when Society interferes. Catch Phrase,.. absolutely. It grabbed my teen son’s attention.

By: King Canute

King Canute — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:59:58 +0000

‘No Glove,…No Love’ is catchy but it is perhaps useful to help kids distinguish between Love and Sex too.
KC

By: Lisa Van S

Lisa Van S — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:03:26 +0000

Nathan

Kids can rebel against their parents” OOOOH they sure do! But Psychiatrists diagnose it as Oppositional Defiant Disorder, a Mental Illness in the DSMIV, Zoloft along with an antipsychotics is their choice of treatment.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:30:56 +0000

Lisa,
I take it a step farther: I’m going to be teaching my children “no marriage lisence, no love”. But I’m still going to get them vaccinated anyway. Kids can rebel against thier parents — but they can’t rebel against their immune system!

By: Lisa Van S

Lisa Van S — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:15:18 +0000

Nathan,

Shouldnt we also discuss with our children the “Dangers” of having multiple partners. Again, whether they are vaccinated or not, the motto should be, No Glove,.. No Love…

By: Nathan

Nathan — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:52:48 +0000

harpy,
I miswrote about abstinence. I meant to write that abstinence ITSELF is the only 100% effective tool — not abstinence education.

As I said - condoms are an effective tool in the prevention of HPV, and I believe vaccination is also an effective tool. Remember that since we are talking about a communicable disease, the benefits of both extend beyond the individual. Hypothetically speaking, your son may not be vaccinated — but if he sleeps with my daughter (who IS vaccinated) then his chances of getting HPV and passing it along are lowered even though he never took the vaccine.

Vaccines have a societal benefit that extends beyond just individual protection.

By: Lisa Van S

Lisa Van S — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:47:38 +0000

thanks Harpy,

70% seemed low to me, I still advocate condems.

By: harpy

harpy — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:52:07 +0000

(and condoms generally do not protect against HPV — they give only ~70% protection at best)

I was merely pointing out what seemed to be a contradiction in your support for the vaccine vs. your support for condom use, Nathan. If one can prevent recurrent HPV infections - wherever in the body they occur - then the chance of getting cancer is lessened. So is the chance of getting HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis, and other STDs. Not to mention pregnancy.

And your logic regarding abstinence is flawed. While abstinence may be the only way to avoid STDs altogether, abstinence education is a completely different ball of wax and one that has been proven to be ineffective in most cases. All I’m going to say is good luck with that.

Lisa - Here is a link to an ABC News story that cites a University of Washington study. It’s where I found the 70% estimate.

By: Lisa Van S

Lisa Van S — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:21:14 +0000

Nathan,

Can you site a few studies that state condoms are only 70% effective, 70% seems a bit low.