Comments on: Wyeth Can Be Sued For Thimerosal In A Vaccine

By: laurie

laurie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:52:35 +0000

Nathan, the “Laurie” that posted regarding vaccines has a capitol “L”..mine is lower case.

By: laurie

laurie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:51:42 +0000

That post is not me…I believe we have a second Laurie on pharmalot. My take on vaccines is…do your research and make your own decisions.

I’ll get in touch with Ed to see what he can do about the duplicate names.

By: Mr. Blue

Mr. Blue — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:09:09 +0000

Nathan, if you’re own ears have heard, in a manufacturing filling area: “everyone knows there is aluminum in vaccines, the trick is to make sure the particles are small enough not to see”, you’d think differently.

Enjoy your flu shot.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:48:04 +0000

Laurie,
Aren’t you a nurse? Do you advise your patients not to get vaccines? If so, is the doctor you work for aware of this?

By: Dad Fourkids

Dad Fourkids — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:18:11 +0000

The core issue at this matter is that vaccines manufacturer’s have pressed for protection from prosecution that no other corporation enjoys. The Feds and major medical associations back this because they have vested interests in preserving compulsary vaccination. The philosophy of pre-emption should only come into play where the FDA’s findings have the full backing of science. This is not the case with thimerosal in particular and many medical products in general.

To start with, thimerosal has NEVER been tested for safety in pediatric vaccines, and the same base chemical, ethyl mercury, has been found to be unsuitable for topical solutions such as disinfectants and also as a preservative in eye drops and ear drops. It was “grandfathered” into use when the FDA was formed and allowed to remain even to this day in many vaccines. So the FDA cannot have an opinion on its safety, therefore pre-emption should not hold true.

It is interesting to note that the “5 major studies” which “exxonerate” thimerosal from the autism question were all statistical manipulations conducted by people with a direct interest in not being sued over it’s use (vaccine manufcturers and employees of the CDC). And we all know the veracity of statistics. One of the 5 studies was generated using the VAERs database, which Gerberding stated just this year was such a flawed dataset that no conclusions could be derived from it.

What the IOM and NAS did not consider were several clinical studies which actually examined the biological occurances from the use of thimerosal in vaccination, all of which were consistant with theory of thimerosal triggering autism.

The court was correct in allowing this suit to proceed. If the science will back the plaintiff’s claim, the defense will lose. If the science will not, then Pharma will prevail, and they will have a valuable precedent against any further suits.

But we do have to evaluate the situation honestly, regardless of the fall-out. Thimerosal and autism, should it prove to be true, would only be the latest example of the medical heirarchy defending an unsound situation or practice simply because that is the status quo, and they don’t want to look like they were flying blind.

By: judy

judy — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:59:50 +0000

I truly hope this is not the beginning of a trend. vaccines not only save lives, but they save tons of money and health care resources in the treatment of vaccine-preventable diseases. The reason the Vaccine Compensation Fund was created by the federal government was to keep people from suing the pharma companies directly. Pharma will not produce vaccine if it is not profitable and we needs vaccines to keep our communities healthy and health care expenditures down. This could be a pretty slippery slope and I hope that judge realizes it.

By: B. Campaigne

B. Campaigne — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:52:41 +0000

So, to all the pro vaccination cheerleaders out there….
What does cause Autism?

Please explain in a million words or less.

By: truthman30

truthman30 — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:30:08 +0000

My claim’s are all based on research , knowledge and FACTS…

By: truthman30

truthman30 — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:28:35 +0000

“That post was right up there with some of Truthman’s claims!”

Shut up Nathan….

By: anonymous

anonymous — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:15:01 +0000

Vaccines are a big scam and unfortunately many children have paid the price of their health for this vaccine scam. Thimersal has never been safety tested on infants or children- Only adults dying of meningitis. Guess what - they all DIED.

I heard on the news today that the flu shot is ineffective but go ahead and get it anyway. huh? Pharma logic.