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		<title>By: Medical Document Management</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/clinical-trial-disclosure-is-incomplete-study/#comment-403442</link>
		<dc:creator>Medical Document Management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this wonderful post.</description>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/clinical-trial-disclosure-is-incomplete-study/#comment-387279</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read about how negative clinical trial results are often never published (see NewsInferno.com).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read about how negative clinical trial results are often never published (see NewsInferno.com).</p>
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		<title>By: Former Marketing Exec</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/clinical-trial-disclosure-is-incomplete-study/#comment-383151</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Marketing Exec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is exactly my the point I was making in my posts, that went a bit haywire, I must say...

It is inappropriate for those decisions to be made purely on marketing reasons, but it is the way it goes.

The company researchers and executives approach marketing to determine who, what, where and when a drug will fit in the market and how will it generate the best ROI for the organization.  Whatever market research is discovered goes into the marketing mix, and marketing then influences the direction of the clinical research.

It is quite crazy when you think that Medical doctors and researchers who have dedicated years to their education and perfecting their skills are actually being "undermined" and in some cases compromised by the decisions being made in the marketing department.  Some marketing directors have MBA's some do not.  Medical, regulatory should drive the process.  When I was working in Pharma, I insisted and usually got what I wanted, because it worked.  We increased our credibility with our KOL's who then found ways to give us more time, this worked to our competitive advantage.

Big Pharma does have some very good people working inside, very smart PhD and MD's, they need to listen to these people much more than just thinking about the marketing, that is what is killing them and causing the problems and great distrust.

Hope the right people read this and think about thinking out side of the box for a change....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is exactly my the point I was making in my posts, that went a bit haywire, I must say&#8230;</p>
<p>It is inappropriate for those decisions to be made purely on marketing reasons, but it is the way it goes.</p>
<p>The company researchers and executives approach marketing to determine who, what, where and when a drug will fit in the market and how will it generate the best ROI for the organization.  Whatever market research is discovered goes into the marketing mix, and marketing then influences the direction of the clinical research.</p>
<p>It is quite crazy when you think that Medical doctors and researchers who have dedicated years to their education and perfecting their skills are actually being &#8220;undermined&#8221; and in some cases compromised by the decisions being made in the marketing department.  Some marketing directors have MBA&#8217;s some do not.  Medical, regulatory should drive the process.  When I was working in Pharma, I insisted and usually got what I wanted, because it worked.  We increased our credibility with our KOL&#8217;s who then found ways to give us more time, this worked to our competitive advantage.</p>
<p>Big Pharma does have some very good people working inside, very smart PhD and MD&#8217;s, they need to listen to these people much more than just thinking about the marketing, that is what is killing them and causing the problems and great distrust.</p>
<p>Hope the right people read this and think about thinking out side of the box for a change&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/clinical-trial-disclosure-is-incomplete-study/#comment-383142</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would this selective publication be surprising when it is marketing departments that often decide what trials to do on products. Why marketing? Because the  "science" is particularly valid if it reinforces greater use of a product. Nice to know you have al those bright MBAs deciding what science to pursue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would this selective publication be surprising when it is marketing departments that often decide what trials to do on products. Why marketing? Because the  &#8220;science&#8221; is particularly valid if it reinforces greater use of a product. Nice to know you have al those bright MBAs deciding what science to pursue.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Marketing Exec</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/clinical-trial-disclosure-is-incomplete-study/#comment-383089</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Marketing Exec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excerpt from a recent paper:
Protecting the rights of investigators in industry- 
supported clinical research 
Robert B. Rutherford, MD,a and K. Wayne Johnston, MD,b Silverthorne, Colo; and Toronto, Canada 

Journal of Vascular Surgery

THE PROBLEM 
Research contracts between a company and a clinical 
trial investigator often contain “non-disclosure” clauses, 
drawn up to protect the company against the investigator 
divulging proprietary information or information about the 
company’s business operations. Yet the research contracts 
that today’s investigators are asked to sign before partici- 
pating in an industry-supported clinical research trial often 
contain broadly worded clauses that can be used to restrict 
their rights to access, analyze, and report trial data. Typi- 
cally, they demand conﬁdentiality by restricting the dissem- 
ination of “conﬁdential information,” but in doing so may, 
for example, include in the deﬁnition of conﬁdential infor- 
mation “data developed or generated in whole or part by 
the investigator during the research investigation.” Some 
clauses prohibit “publication of the results of the research 
unless agreed to by the Company in writing.” The latter 
restriction may be either without time limits or allowed 
under contract only after an inappropriately long period of 
time after completion of the research or trial. Such clauses 
can create and have created problems for investigators, 
probably only a small portion of which has been reported by 
summaries and statistical analyses performed by the com- 
pany. There may be a lack of investigator input into the data 
included in or excluded from the summary data set and thus 
from publication, with no recourse under the terms of the 
contract. Delays or failure to report adverse events or to 
report negative trials may result, and the company’s role in 
causing these may be justiﬁed or defended by the restrictive 
terms of many contracts. 
Tactics that have been reported as delaying or discour- 
aging publication of negative or unfavorable clinical re- 
search trials include withholding company approval of a 
manuscript submission (based on terms stipulated in the 
contract) and dragging out the company review of the 
manuscript (which is required by contract), prolonging a 
dispute over company-suggested revisions and/or having 
another version submitted by other authors in the interim.6 
Companies have also withheld raw data needed as back- 
ground for a published report.2,10 Other tactics have been 
reported, not necessarily based on contract restrictions.10 
Such tactics may include requesting investigators/authors 
to withhold publication of the trial data until after an 
additional ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excerpt from a recent paper:<br />
Protecting the rights of investigators in industry-<br />
supported clinical research<br />
Robert B. Rutherford, MD,a and K. Wayne Johnston, MD,b Silverthorne, Colo; and Toronto, Canada </p>
<p>Journal of Vascular Surgery</p>
<p>THE PROBLEM<br />
Research contracts between a company and a clinical<br />
trial investigator often contain “non-disclosure” clauses,<br />
drawn up to protect the company against the investigator<br />
divulging proprietary information or information about the<br />
company’s business operations. Yet the research contracts<br />
that today’s investigators are asked to sign before partici-<br />
pating in an industry-supported clinical research trial often<br />
contain broadly worded clauses that can be used to restrict<br />
their rights to access, analyze, and report trial data. Typi-<br />
cally, they demand conﬁdentiality by restricting the dissem-<br />
ination of “conﬁdential information,” but in doing so may,<br />
for example, include in the deﬁnition of conﬁdential infor-<br />
mation “data developed or generated in whole or part by<br />
the investigator during the research investigation.” Some<br />
clauses prohibit “publication of the results of the research<br />
unless agreed to by the Company in writing.” The latter<br />
restriction may be either without time limits or allowed<br />
under contract only after an inappropriately long period of<br />
time after completion of the research or trial. Such clauses<br />
can create and have created problems for investigators,<br />
probably only a small portion of which has been reported by<br />
summaries and statistical analyses performed by the com-<br />
pany. There may be a lack of investigator input into the data<br />
included in or excluded from the summary data set and thus<br />
from publication, with no recourse under the terms of the<br />
contract. Delays or failure to report adverse events or to<br />
report negative trials may result, and the company’s role in<br />
causing these may be justiﬁed or defended by the restrictive<br />
terms of many contracts.<br />
Tactics that have been reported as delaying or discour-<br />
aging publication of negative or unfavorable clinical re-<br />
search trials include withholding company approval of a<br />
manuscript submission (based on terms stipulated in the<br />
contract) and dragging out the company review of the<br />
manuscript (which is required by contract), prolonging a<br />
dispute over company-suggested revisions and/or having<br />
another version submitted by other authors in the interim.6<br />
Companies have also withheld raw data needed as back-<br />
ground for a published report.2,10 Other tactics have been<br />
reported, not necessarily based on contract restrictions.10<br />
Such tactics may include requesting investigators/authors<br />
to withhold publication of the trial data until after an<br />
additional &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Exec</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/clinical-trial-disclosure-is-incomplete-study/#comment-383079</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Exec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excerpt from a recent paper from the journal of vascular surgery.

THE PROBLEM 
Research contracts between a company and a clinical 
trial investigator often contain “non-disclosure” clauses, 
drawn up to protect the company against the investigator 
divulging proprietary information or information about the 
company’s business operations. Yet the research contracts 
that today’s investigators are asked to sign before partici- 
pating in an industry-supported clinical research trial often 
contain broadly worded clauses that can be used to restrict 
their rights to access, analyze, and report trial data. Typi- 
cally, they demand conﬁdentiality by restricting the dissem- 
ination of “conﬁdential information,” but in doing so may, 
for example, include in the deﬁnition of conﬁdential infor- 
mation “data developed or generated in whole or part by 
the investigator during the research investigation.” Some 
clauses prohibit “publication of the results of the research 
unless agreed to by the Company in writing.” The latter 
restriction may be either without time limits or allowed 
under contract only after an inappropriately long period of 
time after completion of the research or trial. Such clausessummaries and statistical analyses performed by the com- 
pany. There may be a lack of investigator input into the data 
included in or excluded from the summary data set and thus 
from publication, with no recourse under the terms of the 
contract. Delays or failure to report adverse events or to 
report negative trials may result, and the company’s role in 
causing these may be justiﬁed or defended by the restrictive 
terms of many contracts. 
Tactics that have been reported as delaying or discour- 
aging publication of negative or unfavorable clinical re- 
search trials include withholding company approval of a 
manuscript submission (based on terms stipulated in the 
contract) and dragging out the company review of the 
manuscript (which is required by contract), prolonging a 
dispute over company-suggested revisions and/or having 
another version submitted by other authors in the interim.6 
Companies have also withheld raw data needed as back- 
ground for a published report.2,10 Other tactics have been 
reported, not necessarily based on contract restrictions.10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excerpt from a recent paper from the journal of vascular surgery.</p>
<p>THE PROBLEM<br />
Research contracts between a company and a clinical<br />
trial investigator often contain “non-disclosure” clauses,<br />
drawn up to protect the company against the investigator<br />
divulging proprietary information or information about the<br />
company’s business operations. Yet the research contracts<br />
that today’s investigators are asked to sign before partici-<br />
pating in an industry-supported clinical research trial often<br />
contain broadly worded clauses that can be used to restrict<br />
their rights to access, analyze, and report trial data. Typi-<br />
cally, they demand conﬁdentiality by restricting the dissem-<br />
ination of “conﬁdential information,” but in doing so may,<br />
for example, include in the deﬁnition of conﬁdential infor-<br />
mation “data developed or generated in whole or part by<br />
the investigator during the research investigation.” Some<br />
clauses prohibit “publication of the results of the research<br />
unless agreed to by the Company in writing.” The latter<br />
restriction may be either without time limits or allowed<br />
under contract only after an inappropriately long period of<br />
time after completion of the research or trial. Such clausessummaries and statistical analyses performed by the com-<br />
pany. There may be a lack of investigator input into the data<br />
included in or excluded from the summary data set and thus<br />
from publication, with no recourse under the terms of the<br />
contract. Delays or failure to report adverse events or to<br />
report negative trials may result, and the company’s role in<br />
causing these may be justiﬁed or defended by the restrictive<br />
terms of many contracts.<br />
Tactics that have been reported as delaying or discour-<br />
aging publication of negative or unfavorable clinical re-<br />
search trials include withholding company approval of a<br />
manuscript submission (based on terms stipulated in the<br />
contract) and dragging out the company review of the<br />
manuscript (which is required by contract), prolonging a<br />
dispute over company-suggested revisions and/or having<br />
another version submitted by other authors in the interim.6<br />
Companies have also withheld raw data needed as back-<br />
ground for a published report.2,10 Other tactics have been<br />
reported, not necessarily based on contract restrictions.10</p>
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		<title>By: Former Marketing Exec</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/clinical-trial-disclosure-is-incomplete-study/#comment-383078</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Marketing Exec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a few physicians associations who are mandating that the P.I.'s for clinical trials have access to the raw data.

In many cases now, the P.I.'s do not always get access to this data, they get access only to the trial data from their site, which provides an incomplete picture if it is a multiple trial site.

Excerpt from recent paper with source sited below....
 
THE PROBLEM 
Research contracts between a company and a clinical 
trial investigator often contain “non-disclosure” clauses, 
drawn up to protect the company against the investigator 
divulging proprietary information or information about the 
company’s business operations. Yet the research contracts 
that today’s investigators are asked to sign before partici- 
pating in an industry-supported clinical research trial often 
contain broadly worded clauses that can be used to restrict 
their rights to access, analyze, and report trial data. Typi- 
cally, they demand conﬁdentiality by restricting the dissem- 
ination of “conﬁdential information,” but in doing so may, 
for example, include in the deﬁnition of conﬁdential infor- 
mation “data developed or generated in whole or part by 
the investigator during the research investigation.” Some 
clauses prohibit “publication of the results of the research 
unless agreed to by the Company in writing.” The latter 
restriction may be either without time limits or allowed 
under contract only after an inappropriately long period of 
time after completion of the research or trial. Such clausessummaries and statistical analyses performed by the com- 
pany. There may be a lack of investigator input into the data 
included in or excluded from the summary data set and thus 
from publication, with no recourse under the terms of the 
contract. Delays or failure to report adverse events or to 
report negative trials may result, and the company’s role in 
causing these may be justiﬁed or defended by the restrictive 
terms of many contracts. 
Tactics that have been reported as delaying or discour- 
aging publication of negative or unfavorable clinical re- 
search trials include withholding company approval of a 
manuscript submission (based on terms stipulated in the 
contract) and dragging out the company review of the 
manuscript (which is required by contract), prolonging a 
dispute over company-suggested revisions and/or having 
another version submitted by other authors in the interim.6 
Companies have also withheld raw data needed as back- 
ground for a published report......2,10 Other tactics have been 
reported, not necessarily based on contract restrictions.10 
From the Department of Surgery, Vascular Surgery Section, University of Colorado Health Sciences Center,a and the Department of Surgery, 
Toronto General Hospital, University of Toronto.b 
Reprint requests: K. Wayne Johnston, MD, Editorial Ofﬁce, Toronto General Hospital, 5 Eaton, Room 312, 200 Elizabeth St, Toronto, Ontario, 
M5G 2C4, Canada. 
J Vasc Surg 2002;35:1036-40. 
Copyright © 2002 by The Society for Vascular Surgery and The American 
Association for Vascular Surgery. 
0741-5214/2002/$35.00 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few physicians associations who are mandating that the P.I.&#8217;s for clinical trials have access to the raw data.</p>
<p>In many cases now, the P.I.&#8217;s do not always get access to this data, they get access only to the trial data from their site, which provides an incomplete picture if it is a multiple trial site.</p>
<p>Excerpt from recent paper with source sited below&#8230;.</p>
<p>THE PROBLEM<br />
Research contracts between a company and a clinical<br />
trial investigator often contain “non-disclosure” clauses,<br />
drawn up to protect the company against the investigator<br />
divulging proprietary information or information about the<br />
company’s business operations. Yet the research contracts<br />
that today’s investigators are asked to sign before partici-<br />
pating in an industry-supported clinical research trial often<br />
contain broadly worded clauses that can be used to restrict<br />
their rights to access, analyze, and report trial data. Typi-<br />
cally, they demand conﬁdentiality by restricting the dissem-<br />
ination of “conﬁdential information,” but in doing so may,<br />
for example, include in the deﬁnition of conﬁdential infor-<br />
mation “data developed or generated in whole or part by<br />
the investigator during the research investigation.” Some<br />
clauses prohibit “publication of the results of the research<br />
unless agreed to by the Company in writing.” The latter<br />
restriction may be either without time limits or allowed<br />
under contract only after an inappropriately long period of<br />
time after completion of the research or trial. Such clausessummaries and statistical analyses performed by the com-<br />
pany. There may be a lack of investigator input into the data<br />
included in or excluded from the summary data set and thus<br />
from publication, with no recourse under the terms of the<br />
contract. Delays or failure to report adverse events or to<br />
report negative trials may result, and the company’s role in<br />
causing these may be justiﬁed or defended by the restrictive<br />
terms of many contracts.<br />
Tactics that have been reported as delaying or discour-<br />
aging publication of negative or unfavorable clinical re-<br />
search trials include withholding company approval of a<br />
manuscript submission (based on terms stipulated in the<br />
contract) and dragging out the company review of the<br />
manuscript (which is required by contract), prolonging a<br />
dispute over company-suggested revisions and/or having<br />
another version submitted by other authors in the interim.6<br />
Companies have also withheld raw data needed as back-<br />
ground for a published report&#8230;&#8230;2,10 Other tactics have been<br />
reported, not necessarily based on contract restrictions.10<br />
From the Department of Surgery, Vascular Surgery Section, University of Colorado Health Sciences Center,a and the Department of Surgery,<br />
Toronto General Hospital, University of Toronto.b<br />
Reprint requests: K. Wayne Johnston, MD, Editorial Ofﬁce, Toronto General Hospital, 5 Eaton, Room 312, 200 Elizabeth St, Toronto, Ontario,<br />
M5G 2C4, Canada.<br />
J Vasc Surg 2002;35:1036-40.<br />
Copyright © 2002 by The Society for Vascular Surgery and The American<br />
Association for Vascular Surgery.<br />
0741-5214/2002/$35.00</p>
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		<title>By: Former Marketing Exec</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/clinical-trial-disclosure-is-incomplete-study/#comment-383077</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Marketing Exec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some physician organizations that are now making it mandatory for all P.I's involved in the clinical trials to review all the raw data.  This would help considerably in ensuring that the data being published matches the data in the NDA's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some physician organizations that are now making it mandatory for all P.I&#8217;s involved in the clinical trials to review all the raw data.  This would help considerably in ensuring that the data being published matches the data in the NDA&#8217;s.</p>
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