Comments on: Nemeroff Removed As Emory Psychiatry Chair http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:21:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Salmon http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-386022 Salmon Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:34:15 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=18872#comment-386022 Whoa both of you. First of all. By the quotes in the article Nemeroff actually admitted to wrongdoing so I don't understand the position of innocent until proven guilty. It looks like that has already been established. As for more serious implications he clearly hasn't admitted to that. However if others (i.e. individuals in the companies) were involved in conspiracy to illegally push drugs off-label and definitely knew they did not work and would likely kill children. Then I suppose it's possible even if he didn't know anything then he might be able to be linked to it for pushing that company's drug or even the use and could possibly be charged as a co-conspirator. This in my mind would fall under innocent until proven guilty. Whoa both of you.

First of all. By the quotes in the article Nemeroff actually admitted to wrongdoing so I don’t understand the position of innocent until proven guilty. It looks like that has already been established.

As for more serious implications he clearly hasn’t admitted to that. However if others (i.e. individuals in the companies) were involved in conspiracy to illegally push drugs off-label and definitely knew they did not work and would likely kill children. Then I suppose it’s possible even if he didn’t know anything then he might be able to be linked to it for pushing that company’s drug or even the use and could possibly be charged as a co-conspirator. This in my mind would fall under innocent until proven guilty.

]]> By: jay http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-386010 jay Thu, 01 Jan 2009 03:31:14 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=18872#comment-386010 you obviously have already convicted without the presumption of innocence. Now to compare him with a Hitler analogy and totally distort what I wrote and to make more unfounded accusations ( over prescribing etc. ) I hope u have proof if so show me if not dont accuse him of being a baby killer. If what u say is true alot more people than Grassley ( whom I respect ) would be looking into ur unfounded and ridiculous speculation you obviously have already convicted without the presumption of innocence. Now to compare him with a Hitler analogy and totally distort what I wrote and to make more unfounded accusations ( over prescribing etc. ) I hope u have proof if so show me if not dont accuse him of being a baby killer. If what u say is true alot more people than Grassley ( whom I respect ) would be looking into ur unfounded and ridiculous speculation

]]> By: In the Know http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-386004 In the Know Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:09:27 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=18872#comment-386004 I absolutely disagree with you. If 'Charley' is knowlingly assisting in pushing highly lethal drugs at excessive doses in children for indications that he or others know they are ineffective for, then in my opinion he may very well be guilty of the mass maiming or killing of children as part of a pattern of child abuse. In my mind a 1% wrong of this type is more than enough to offset the 99% good. (He was a good father, provider, husband, rainmaker for Harvard). After all many people thought Hitler did a great deal of good for Germany. I absolutely disagree with you. If ‘Charley’ is knowlingly assisting in pushing highly lethal drugs at excessive doses in children for indications that he or others know they are ineffective for, then in my opinion he may very well be guilty of the mass maiming or killing of children as part of a pattern of child abuse.

In my mind a 1% wrong of this type is more than enough to offset the 99% good. (He was a good father, provider, husband, rainmaker for Harvard). After all many people thought Hitler did a great deal of good for Germany.

]]> By: jay http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-385999 jay Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:43:33 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=18872#comment-385999 I previously wrote where is the presumption of innocence. Let's assume for a moment that Grassley the media and all the bloggers who have waited for Charley to fall are right. I can't condone those actions but I also dont believe it should wipe out decades of a superb clinician. Now for a moment let's assume their wrong, it should be a great hint to universities its alot easier to find a great accountant than a great clinician/doctor. This particular problem starts at the universities president level and trickles down to all. If it starts at that level it needs to finish at that level. Let's all just hope that a great university and their doctors ( including Charley ) continue to do things right 99% of the time. Getting to a 100% should be the goal now. I once again say I can't condone the actions IF true, but I also believe in life u have to weigh the good vs. The bad and I believe for Emory and Charley the scale is still on the good side. Jay I previously wrote where is the presumption of innocence. Let’s assume for a moment that Grassley the media and all the bloggers who have waited for Charley to fall are right. I can’t condone those actions but I also dont believe it should wipe out decades of a superb clinician. Now for a moment let’s assume their wrong, it should be a great hint to universities its alot easier to find a great accountant than a great clinician/doctor. This particular problem starts at the universities president level and trickles down to all. If it starts at that level it needs to finish at that level. Let’s all just hope that a great university and their doctors ( including Charley ) continue to do things right 99% of the time. Getting to a 100% should be the goal now. I once again say I can’t condone the actions IF true, but I also believe in life u have to weigh the good vs. The bad and I believe for Emory and Charley the scale is still on the good side. Jay

]]> By: truthman30 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-385494 truthman30 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:22:51 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=18872#comment-385494 "Accurate disclosure and transparency are fundamental to the integrity of medical research. Without them, the public trust is violated and public confidence in the system is legitimately shaken.” Integrity .. Now there's a novel concept... (psychiatrists take note ... I N T E G R I T Y) “Accurate disclosure and transparency are fundamental to the integrity of medical research. Without them, the public trust is violated and public confidence in the system is legitimately shaken.”

Integrity ..

Now there’s a novel concept…

(psychiatrists take note … I N T E G R I T Y)

]]> By: truthman30 http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-385493 truthman30 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:13:23 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=18872#comment-385493 The picture there of Nemeroff doesn't help the situation.. Looks like a used car salesman from a bad 1980's cop show... The picture there of Nemeroff doesn’t help the situation..
Looks like a used car salesman from a bad 1980’s cop show…

]]> By: Tom http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-385460 Tom Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:12:26 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=18872#comment-385460 Nemeroff eating humble pie. Nemeroff eating humble pie.

]]> By: Marilyn Mann http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/12/nemeroff-removed-as-emory-psychiatry-chair/#comment-385436 Marilyn Mann Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:18:23 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=18872#comment-385436 Good riddance. Good riddance.

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