Comments on: Canadian Judge: Zyprexa Is An ‘Almost Invention’ http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/ News, Comment and Conversation Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:50:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Nathan http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441876 Nathan Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:06:00 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441876 Good point Condor - I hadn't looked at it that way. Chemists have really boxed themselves into corners over the years by filing patents on such broad classes of compounds. Now we're stuck with the mess we've created. Good point Condor - I hadn’t looked at it that way.

Chemists have really boxed themselves into corners over the years by filing patents on such broad classes of compounds. Now we’re stuck with the mess we’ve created.

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By: Condor http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441838 Condor Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:15:05 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441838 Yes, it does, foln16 -- It also (quite probably) would have meant that the <b><i>original</i></b> patent would have expired prior to grant of the <i>now-contested</i> one. . . . Thus -- while it may be that no <i>"gamesmanship</i>" was actually attempted here -- it is also quite likely that had the patent lawyers waited until these special properties were clearly known, the exclusivity for the original filing would have lapsed, anyway. Game over. So, perhaps it is "<i>six of one -- half dozen of the other</i>" -- now that a Canadian judge has leaned toward tossing it, anyway. Namaste Yes, it does, foln16 –

It also (quite probably) would have meant that the original patent would have expired prior to grant of the now-contested one. . . .

Thus — while it may be that no “gamesmanship” was actually attempted here — it is also quite likely that had the patent lawyers waited until these special properties were clearly known, the exclusivity for the original filing would have lapsed, anyway. Game over.

So, perhaps it is “six of one — half dozen of the other” — now that a Canadian judge has leaned toward tossing it, anyway.

Namaste

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By: foln16 http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441837 foln16 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:59:38 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441837 Nathan writes that the solution to Lilly's problem here would be to wait until the "new" compound is ready to go, presumably so more is known about it and the applicant can demonstrate the special characteristics of the compound in the selection patent relative to class of compounds in the genus patent. This seems to be supported by the ruling here as well, since the overarching criticism of the judge in this case was that Lilly’s scientists did not know (and therefore did not disclose) the special characteristics of olanzapine at the time of the selection patent application in 1991: "the evidence just was not there, yet" (p. 58, para 154). But doesn't this line of reasoning cause other problems, in terms of losing novelty? Nathan writes that the solution to Lilly’s problem here would be to wait until the “new” compound is ready to go, presumably so more is known about it and the applicant can demonstrate the special characteristics of the compound in the selection patent relative to class of compounds in the genus patent. This seems to be supported by the ruling here as well, since the overarching criticism of the judge in this case was that Lilly’s scientists did not know (and therefore did not disclose) the special characteristics of olanzapine at the time of the selection patent application in 1991: “the evidence just was not there, yet” (p. 58, para 154). But doesn’t this line of reasoning cause other problems, in terms of losing novelty?

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By: Brother http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441595 Brother Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:48:19 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441595 Just clarifying Nathan's comment, clozapine was withdrawn in 1975 but brought back in 1989 with five black boxes. It could never have been marketed as Zyprexa was. Nevertheless, despite compliance with all pt. instructions, the drug killed my sister in 2000. Just clarifying Nathan’s comment, clozapine was withdrawn in 1975 but brought back in 1989 with five black boxes. It could never have been marketed as Zyprexa was.

Nevertheless, despite compliance with all pt. instructions, the drug killed my sister in 2000.

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By: Daniel Haszard http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441520 Daniel Haszard Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:13:09 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441520 Eli Lilly has made $38 billion on Zyprexa and it was way oversold and caused diabetes and in some cases sudden death. Eli Lilly has received a huge criminal fine over their Zyprexa cash cow,add it all up comes to $4.6 billion, in Zyprexa settlements,fines,litigation. Addictive Zyprexa was pushed by Lilly Drug Reps. They called it the "Five at Five" (5 mg at 5 pm to keep nursing home patients subdued and sleepy) and "VIVA ZYPREXA" (Zyprexa for everybody) campaigns to off label market Eli Lilly Zyprexa as a fix for unapproved usage. Eli Lilly is 'reaping the whirlwind' for aggressive marketing of Zyprexa that has caused suffering and deaths. There must be millions out there harmed by this drug. Daniel Haszard http://www.zyprexa-victims.com Eli Lilly has made $38 billion on Zyprexa and it was way oversold and caused diabetes and in some cases sudden death.
Eli Lilly has received a huge criminal fine over their Zyprexa cash cow,add it all up comes to $4.6 billion, in Zyprexa settlements,fines,litigation.

Addictive Zyprexa was pushed by Lilly Drug Reps.
They called it the “Five at Five” (5 mg at 5 pm to keep nursing home patients subdued and sleepy) and “VIVA ZYPREXA” (Zyprexa for everybody) campaigns to off label market Eli Lilly Zyprexa as a fix for unapproved usage.

Eli Lilly is ‘reaping the whirlwind’ for aggressive marketing of Zyprexa that has caused suffering and deaths.
There must be millions out there harmed by this drug.

Daniel Haszard http://www.zyprexa-victims.com

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By: Nathan http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441434 Nathan Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:12:52 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441434 This was NOT an attempt at "ever-greening". It's an attempt to protect intellectual property that is closely related to prior intellectual property. It comes down to what is "obvious" and what isn't. Clozapine was developed and marketed in 1975. The clozapine patent "generically" claimed olanzapine (Zyprexa). Note that Zyraxa was never SPECIFICALLY made or described -- it was only generically decribed in broad strokes. Clozapine was withdrawn for safety reasons in 1975. Zyprexa (olanzapine) was patented in 1991. I'll quote from the below reference: "The prior art references at the time of this invention taught away from using a non-halogenated compound as a substituent in the benzene ring, exactly where olanzapine has a hydrogen atom. When claimed properties differ from the prior art, those differences, if unexpected and significant, may lead to nonobviousness." (non-obviousness is necessary for "patentability") http://www.patenthawk.com/blog/2006/12/generic_anticipation_1.html This is absolutely not evergreening. This is a case of a company not having a good patent strategy and chemists not being quite creative enough to get away from thier own prior art. Writing patents is truely an art: If you make your claims too narrow, you may get competitors scooping your work. If you make your claims too broad, you risk something like this case. This was NOT an attempt at “ever-greening”. It’s an attempt to protect intellectual property that is closely related to prior intellectual property. It comes down to what is “obvious” and what isn’t. Clozapine was developed and marketed in 1975. The clozapine patent “generically” claimed olanzapine (Zyprexa). Note that Zyraxa was never SPECIFICALLY made or described — it was only generically decribed in broad strokes. Clozapine was withdrawn for safety reasons in 1975.

Zyprexa (olanzapine) was patented in 1991. I’ll quote from the below reference: “The prior art references at the time of this invention taught away from using a non-halogenated compound as a substituent in the benzene ring, exactly where olanzapine has a hydrogen atom. When claimed properties differ from the prior art, those differences, if unexpected and significant, may lead to nonobviousness.” (non-obviousness is necessary for “patentability”)

http://www.patenthawk.com/blog/2006/12/generic_anticipation_1.html

This is absolutely not evergreening. This is a case of a company not having a good patent strategy and chemists not being quite creative enough to get away from thier own prior art. Writing patents is truely an art: If you make your claims too narrow, you may get competitors scooping your work. If you make your claims too broad, you risk something like this case.

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By: SKR http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441081 SKR Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:04:05 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441081 For me the striking/ interesting part was the conclusion. The Judge almost went to the extent of saying that this selection patent was a [blatant] attempt at ever-greening. For me the striking/ interesting part was the conclusion.
The Judge almost went to the extent of saying that this selection patent was a [blatant] attempt at ever-greening.

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By: teeth whitening kits http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441071 teeth whitening kits Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:20:43 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441071 Then let’s “almost” grant exclusivity — allowing Canadian sales of generic competitors, but only on rainy Tuesdays — and let’s only grant that for “almost” a year — after that, it will be okay to sell generics whenever the Bridge club gathers — but only on folding card tables. Then let’s “almost” grant exclusivity — allowing Canadian sales of generic competitors, but only on rainy Tuesdays — and let’s only grant that for “almost” a year — after that, it will be okay to sell generics whenever the Bridge club gathers — but only on folding card tables.

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By: Condor http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441061 Condor Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:51:43 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441061 Maybe Canadian courts will "<i>invent</i>" a new form of intellectual-property: let's call it "<i>almost novel</i>" and thus, almost patent-worthy. Then let's "<i>almost</i>" grant exclusivity -- allowing Canadian sales of generic competitors, but only on rainy Tuesdays -- and let's only grant that for "<i>almost</i>" a year -- after that, it will be okay to sell generics whenever the Bridge club gathers -- but only on folding card tables. More seriously, while I <a href="http://shearlingsplowed.blogspot.com/2009/09/how-long-should-cancer-drug-patent-last.html" rel="nofollow">deplore the endless system of continuing US patents on marginally-novel compounds, especially ones that have now lasted 32 years</a>(!), instead of the intended 17, I think this Canadian Zyprexa one will ultimately be overturned on appeal. The reasoning here makes for interesting reading, but as many an able judge has said, down here in the lower 48, "<i>hard facts make bad law</i>. . . ." Namaste Maybe Canadian courts will “invent” a new form of intellectual-property: let’s call it “almost novel” and thus, almost patent-worthy.

Then let’s “almost” grant exclusivity — allowing Canadian sales of generic competitors, but only on rainy Tuesdays — and let’s only grant that for “almost” a year — after that, it will be okay to sell generics whenever the Bridge club gathers — but only on folding card tables.

More seriously, while I deplore the endless system of continuing US patents on marginally-novel compounds, especially ones that have now lasted 32 years(!), instead of the intended 17, I think this Canadian Zyprexa one will ultimately be overturned on appeal.

The reasoning here makes for interesting reading, but as many an able judge has said, down here in the lower 48, “hard facts make bad law. . . .”

Namaste

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By: Nathan http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/canadian-judge-zyprexa-is-an-almost-invention/#comment-441025 Nathan Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:44:45 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=19281#comment-441025 Wow -- the first few pages of the ruling you reference make for a fascinating reading for anyone involved in early drug discovery. It show just how important the timing of patent filings is for the creation of value. It turns out that Zyprexa was broadly claimed in by Lilly in an earlier patent that claimed approximately **15 trillion** compounds! A later "selection" patent (in 1991) was filed that specifically claimed Zyprexa as having "special" properties beyond those claimed in the original patent. This is the point under arguement -- did they provide enough evidence in the 1991 filing to prove that Zyprexa was truely any different than the other 15 trillion compounds in the earlier filing? This sort of problem is rapidly going away as Pharma companies become much smarter about how they patent drugs. Typically patents are not filed on such broad groups of compounds anymore and patents are usually not filed till a compound is nearly in the clinic. This maximizes the "exclusivity period" and it minimizes the risk of invalidating your own work (as Lilly may have done). The only drawback is that you open yourself up to being "scooped" by the competition just as you are entering the clinic.... Wow — the first few pages of the ruling you reference make for a fascinating reading for anyone involved in early drug discovery. It show just how important the timing of patent filings is for the creation of value. It turns out that Zyprexa was broadly claimed in by Lilly in an earlier patent that claimed approximately **15 trillion** compounds! A later “selection” patent (in 1991) was filed that specifically claimed Zyprexa as having “special” properties beyond those claimed in the original patent. This is the point under arguement — did they provide enough evidence in the 1991 filing to prove that Zyprexa was truely any different than the other 15 trillion compounds in the earlier filing?

This sort of problem is rapidly going away as Pharma companies become much smarter about how they patent drugs. Typically patents are not filed on such broad groups of compounds anymore and patents are usually not filed till a compound is nearly in the clinic. This maximizes the “exclusivity period” and it minimizes the risk of invalidating your own work (as Lilly may have done). The only drawback is that you open yourself up to being “scooped” by the competition just as you are entering the clinic….

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