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		<title>By: bob Patton</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/02/a-forbes-guest-blogger-and-his-pharma-ties/#comment-530854</link>
		<dc:creator>bob Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DR Mintz 
Another pawn in the chess game of life.
He signed the Hippocratic  oath. 
I don't remember it saying take the 30 pieces of silver as the first maxim.
Maybe its ok to overlook the first maxim when you get a lucrative incentive.
Joe public; who's he anyway.
Corruption enters every facet of our lives and when the day of retribution comes it comes with a big sting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DR Mintz<br />
Another pawn in the chess game of life.<br />
He signed the Hippocratic  oath.<br />
I don&#8217;t remember it saying take the 30 pieces of silver as the first maxim.<br />
Maybe its ok to overlook the first maxim when you get a lucrative incentive.<br />
Joe public; who&#8217;s he anyway.<br />
Corruption enters every facet of our lives and when the day of retribution comes it comes with a big sting.</p>
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		<title>By: patrons99</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/02/a-forbes-guest-blogger-and-his-pharma-ties/#comment-470013</link>
		<dc:creator>patrons99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pharmavet: Perhaps, we're not so different after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pharmavet: Perhaps, we&#8217;re not so different after all.</p>
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		<title>By: patrons99</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrons99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher: I am not pretending to be an investigative reporter. That's Ed's area of expertise. As for any "passion about this stuff" that you may perceive, I do not apologize. 

I simply mentioned the LA Times article because Mintz's post at Forbes on February 19th is effectively pharma "spin", misinformation to mislead the public as to the VERY real safety concerns by FDA surrounding the use of the LABAs. They already have a black box warning. Apparently, FDA has identified some NEW safety signals regarding the LABAs. I'm sure there will be more to follow on this topic. In fact, I hope that Ed is all over the REAL story here, when it does break. 

Just as Mintz did with Avandia and the statins, so he also made posts at Forbes' blog site on the LABAs, all apparently without ever disclosing his rather substantial COIs. The point I tried to make was that the timing of his LABA post to Forbes was not fortuitous. It was proactive, intended to defuse the bad news from FDA regarding the LABAs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher: I am not pretending to be an investigative reporter. That&#8217;s Ed&#8217;s area of expertise. As for any &#8220;passion about this stuff&#8221; that you may perceive, I do not apologize. </p>
<p>I simply mentioned the LA Times article because Mintz&#8217;s post at Forbes on February 19th is effectively pharma &#8220;spin&#8221;, misinformation to mislead the public as to the VERY real safety concerns by FDA surrounding the use of the LABAs. They already have a black box warning. Apparently, FDA has identified some NEW safety signals regarding the LABAs. I&#8217;m sure there will be more to follow on this topic. In fact, I hope that Ed is all over the REAL story here, when it does break. </p>
<p>Just as Mintz did with Avandia and the statins, so he also made posts at Forbes&#8217; blog site on the LABAs, all apparently without ever disclosing his rather substantial COIs. The point I tried to make was that the timing of his LABA post to Forbes was not fortuitous. It was proactive, intended to defuse the bad news from FDA regarding the LABAs.</p>
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		<title>By: pharmavet</title>
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		<dc:creator>pharmavet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrons, I'm not a secular progressive at all.  In fact I've adopted the 12-step principles to my daily life.  In this case, Step 7 would apply: "Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrons, I&#8217;m not a secular progressive at all.  In fact I&#8217;ve adopted the 12-step principles to my daily life.  In this case, Step 7 would apply: &#8220;Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patrons - I know you are passionate about this stuff, but - seriously - why wouldn't a blogger want to be posting close to an original article on which he/she is commenting? Ed does it all the time. That's why they are topical and why we read them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patrons - I know you are passionate about this stuff, but - seriously - why wouldn&#8217;t a blogger want to be posting close to an original article on which he/she is commenting? Ed does it all the time. That&#8217;s why they are topical and why we read them.</p>
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		<title>By: patrons99</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrons99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidentally, the good Dr Mintz made his Faustian bargain with pharma quite some time ago. He does not appear to be a newbie to these kinds of ethical lapses. To quote the good doctor:
“The FDA just killed a few asthmatics!”
“I have blogged extensively regarding LABA safety (see The Lowdown on LABA's , Good News for Asthma Patients , Asthma Medication: Calling Out the Safey Advocates and Dear FDA, Remove the Boxed Warning from Advair and Symbicort )”
For a recent article on the LABAs, see this LA Times article by Andrew Zajac:
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/19/nation/la-na-fda-asthma19-2010feb19
Mintz’s posting at Forbes’ blog on February 19th just happened to coincide with the LA Times article. Coincidental? NOT!!! 

“Editor's note: On Feb. 22 we discovered that Dr. Matthew Mintz has received consulting and speaking fees from GlaxoSmithkline. In January, Dr. Mintz signed our standard writer's agreement specifying the disclosure of “any actual or potential conflict of interest.” Dr. Mintz did not flag the payments from GlaxoSmithkline when filing his posts.”

Forbes disclaimer (above) is disingenuous at best. Senator Grassley’s staffers were very appropriate is seeking to make “mince meat” of this particularly egregious GSK shill. Does Forbes receive DTC advertising $$$ from pharma? – real question, I don’t subscribe to Forbes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidentally, the good Dr Mintz made his Faustian bargain with pharma quite some time ago. He does not appear to be a newbie to these kinds of ethical lapses. To quote the good doctor:<br />
“The FDA just killed a few asthmatics!”<br />
“I have blogged extensively regarding LABA safety (see The Lowdown on LABA&#8217;s , Good News for Asthma Patients , Asthma Medication: Calling Out the Safey Advocates and Dear FDA, Remove the Boxed Warning from Advair and Symbicort )”<br />
For a recent article on the LABAs, see this LA Times article by Andrew Zajac:<br />
<a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/19/nation/la-na-fda-asthma19-2010feb19" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/19/nation/la-na-fda-asthma19-2010feb19</a><br />
Mintz’s posting at Forbes’ blog on February 19th just happened to coincide with the LA Times article. Coincidental? NOT!!! </p>
<p>“Editor&#8217;s note: On Feb. 22 we discovered that Dr. Matthew Mintz has received consulting and speaking fees from GlaxoSmithkline. In January, Dr. Mintz signed our standard writer&#8217;s agreement specifying the disclosure of “any actual or potential conflict of interest.” Dr. Mintz did not flag the payments from GlaxoSmithkline when filing his posts.”</p>
<p>Forbes disclaimer (above) is disingenuous at best. Senator Grassley’s staffers were very appropriate is seeking to make “mince meat” of this particularly egregious GSK shill. Does Forbes receive DTC advertising $$$ from pharma? – real question, I don’t subscribe to Forbes.</p>
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		<title>By: Pharma Giles</title>
		<link>http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/02/a-forbes-guest-blogger-and-his-pharma-ties/#comment-469661</link>
		<dc:creator>Pharma Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't agree with Rich Meyer's lop-sided view of your journalism: to use his own words, he goes out of his way to point out everything that is wrong with someone who doesn't share his rosy view of docs who cosy up to their paymasters.   At a lousy $11K though, you could hardly say that Mintz is minting it.

And there's no reason to doubt the outcome of the &lt;a href="http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2809%2960953-3/fulltext" rel="nofollow"&gt;RECORD&lt;/a&gt; study, which concludes that Avandia is no worse that other glucose-lowering agents when it comes to "overall cardiovascualr morbidity".   Th ebottom line is that Avandia really is just another me-too "glitazone" that may offer some advantages to some patients, and the same disadvantages to most.

What is indefensible is the not-so-nimble sumo tactics of GSK's rottweilers in trying to suppress, discredit, out-spin or intimidate Avandia's critics.  For that reason alone GSK deserves to lose a foothold in the diabetes market.  I don't see a problem with anything you have written on that score to date, Ed.

That &lt;a href="http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/1000210/new-ceo-veihbacher-plucked-from-gsk-in-the-us-could-de-frenchify-sanofi/" rel="nofollow"&gt;nice Mr. Viebacher&lt;/a&gt;, now CEO at Sanofi, just happened to be GSK's US Head at the time.  He really is just the sort of man Sanofi need to place a firm hand on the tiller and sail them into a new decade of Big Pharma transparency and humility... 

Let's watch that space, rather than that around some rather naive medics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree with Rich Meyer&#8217;s lop-sided view of your journalism: to use his own words, he goes out of his way to point out everything that is wrong with someone who doesn&#8217;t share his rosy view of docs who cosy up to their paymasters.   At a lousy $11K though, you could hardly say that Mintz is minting it.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s no reason to doubt the outcome of the <a href="http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2809%2960953-3/fulltext" rel="nofollow">RECORD</a> study, which concludes that Avandia is no worse that other glucose-lowering agents when it comes to &#8220;overall cardiovascualr morbidity&#8221;.   Th ebottom line is that Avandia really is just another me-too &#8220;glitazone&#8221; that may offer some advantages to some patients, and the same disadvantages to most.</p>
<p>What is indefensible is the not-so-nimble sumo tactics of GSK&#8217;s rottweilers in trying to suppress, discredit, out-spin or intimidate Avandia&#8217;s critics.  For that reason alone GSK deserves to lose a foothold in the diabetes market.  I don&#8217;t see a problem with anything you have written on that score to date, Ed.</p>
<p>That <a href="http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/1000210/new-ceo-veihbacher-plucked-from-gsk-in-the-us-could-de-frenchify-sanofi/" rel="nofollow">nice Mr. Viebacher</a>, now CEO at Sanofi, just happened to be GSK&#8217;s US Head at the time.  He really is just the sort of man Sanofi need to place a firm hand on the tiller and sail them into a new decade of Big Pharma transparency and humility&#8230; </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s watch that space, rather than that around some rather naive medics&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: patrons99</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrons99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good, pharmavet. Please tell me that you're not an "anything goes", secular progressive. Suffice it to say, I am politically independent and I will always place my trust in God. Least anyone forget, so too did our Founding Fathers and Framers of Our Constitution. 

As to which circle of Hell is most appropriate for the good doctor, I wouldn't presume to pass judgment on him. I have no idea, what skeletons if any he might have in his closet, nor would I wish to know. His deeds seem to indicate that he is just another in the legion of greedy, shameless, sociopaths (a.k.a. pharma shills), with no conscience or moral compass. The court of public opinion will pass judgment on him, now that he's been outed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good, pharmavet. Please tell me that you&#8217;re not an &#8220;anything goes&#8221;, secular progressive. Suffice it to say, I am politically independent and I will always place my trust in God. Least anyone forget, so too did our Founding Fathers and Framers of Our Constitution. </p>
<p>As to which circle of Hell is most appropriate for the good doctor, I wouldn&#8217;t presume to pass judgment on him. I have no idea, what skeletons if any he might have in his closet, nor would I wish to know. His deeds seem to indicate that he is just another in the legion of greedy, shameless, sociopaths (a.k.a. pharma shills), with no conscience or moral compass. The court of public opinion will pass judgment on him, now that he&#8217;s been outed.</p>
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		<title>By: pharmavet</title>
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		<dc:creator>pharmavet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrons, which circle of Hell are you relegating Mintz to?  Seems like several might be appropriate.

http://www.wsu.edu/~alake/the_circles_of_hell.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrons, which circle of Hell are you relegating Mintz to?  Seems like several might be appropriate.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wsu.edu/~alake/the_circles_of_hell.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsu.edu/~alake/the_circles_of_hell.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Silverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rich,

Thanks for your note, although I think you may have missed my point, which was only about disclosure, an issue that has come up in numerous venues over the past few years as a way to further dialogue. I noted that Mintz's views weren't the issue - regardless whether one agreed or not - nor was the specific amount of money involved.

As an aside, I didn't 'attack' any company - over the last few days, I posted a few Avandia items, two of which essentially aggregated what was reported by the NY Times, with credit and links. And these do raise the issue you note - transparency and embracing science and medicine. I did one item of my own earlier this week, citing an inconsistency, or so it appeared, in Glaxo's statement this past weekend about full disclosure of Avandia data and other info. That was about transparency, which is what you claim I have missed.

As for working for a drug company, no, I haven't. I'm a journalist. But media companies are real companies, too, only of a different sort. 

Hope this helps,
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rich,</p>
<p>Thanks for your note, although I think you may have missed my point, which was only about disclosure, an issue that has come up in numerous venues over the past few years as a way to further dialogue. I noted that Mintz&#8217;s views weren&#8217;t the issue - regardless whether one agreed or not - nor was the specific amount of money involved.</p>
<p>As an aside, I didn&#8217;t &#8216;attack&#8217; any company - over the last few days, I posted a few Avandia items, two of which essentially aggregated what was reported by the NY Times, with credit and links. And these do raise the issue you note - transparency and embracing science and medicine. I did one item of my own earlier this week, citing an inconsistency, or so it appeared, in Glaxo&#8217;s statement this past weekend about full disclosure of Avandia data and other info. That was about transparency, which is what you claim I have missed.</p>
<p>As for working for a drug company, no, I haven&#8217;t. I&#8217;m a journalist. But media companies are real companies, too, only of a different sort. </p>
<p>Hope this helps,<br />
ed</p>
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