Comments on: Lilly Adds Ethics Watchdogs To Settle Lawsuits http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:40:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mindf&@$ed http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-479887 Mindf&@$ed Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:33:40 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-479887 I am very polite and enjoy a well pressed pair of slacks. I am very polite and enjoy a well pressed pair of slacks.

]]> By: Former Pharma Marketing Director http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477989 Former Pharma Marketing Director Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:28:32 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477989 Yes of course Pharmavet, I was being facetious, it was just that kind of day.... Yes of course Pharmavet, I was being facetious, it was just that kind of day….

]]> By: pharmavet http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477934 pharmavet Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:45:41 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477934 FPMD, they can't cut the education piece, or else there would be no CME credit. FPMD, they can’t cut the education piece, or else there would be no CME credit.

]]> By: Former Pharma Marketing Director http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477802 Former Pharma Marketing Director Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:23:11 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477802 Pharmavet, that is a rather detailed list of things that will be cut, but I notice that since the actual education part wasn't on the list, then that would still be available, unless of course you are insinuating that it can't be cut, because it really isn't there anyway ;-) JIM - yeah, I'll let you know if they would hire me....You can certainly tag along...Vice Ethicist - Ha you are so funny, between Ed's picture logo for the FDA, Pharmavets list of things to be cut if marketing pulls out of CME and your vice ethicists remark, I am laughing like crazy, probably disturbing my fellow researchers close by, I have to go for a walk and laugh hysterically - thanks. Oh and Salmon, yeah a logo of Don Corleone for the FDA - precious, precious..... OMG, somebody just asked me to stop laughing.... Pharmavet, that is a rather detailed list of things that will be cut, but I notice that since the actual education part wasn’t on the list, then that would still be available, unless of course you are insinuating that it can’t be cut, because it really isn’t there anyway ;-)

JIM - yeah, I’ll let you know if they would hire me….You can certainly tag along…Vice Ethicist - Ha you are so funny, between Ed’s picture logo for the FDA, Pharmavets list of things to be cut if marketing pulls out of CME and your vice ethicists remark, I am laughing like crazy, probably disturbing my fellow researchers close by, I have to go for a walk and laugh hysterically - thanks.

Oh and Salmon, yeah a logo of Don Corleone for the FDA - precious, precious…..

OMG, somebody just asked me to stop laughing….

]]> By: Big Pharma Watch http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477798 Big Pharma Watch Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:13:57 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477798 What an incredible joke! Like many other Big Pharma companies, these new positions at lilly will no doubt be powerless when up against the commercial machine! Sadly, ethics and Big Pharma are like oil and water - they don't mix. With all the greedy non-medical, non-scientific, non-caring MBAs running the ship, it will never change. indict them, try them, fine them, jail them, and then throw away the key. maybe then, and only then, will the crimes against humanity stop! What an incredible joke! Like many other Big Pharma companies, these new positions at lilly will no doubt be powerless when up against the commercial machine! Sadly, ethics and Big Pharma are like oil and water - they don’t mix. With all the greedy non-medical, non-scientific, non-caring MBAs running the ship, it will never change. indict them, try them, fine them, jail them, and then throw away the key. maybe then, and only then, will the crimes against humanity stop!

]]> By: Jack Friday http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477742 Jack Friday Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:23:30 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477742 http://pharmagossip.blogspot.com/2010/03/lolpharma-contd-call-me-tony.html Enjoy! http://pharmagossip.blogspot.com/2010/03/lolpharma-contd-call-me-tony.html

Enjoy!

]]> By: Justice in MI http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477736 Justice in MI Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:09:39 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477736 Former--Write if you get work! I think it's a terrific idea. Can I tag along? Sort of a Vice Ethicist (contradiction in term?) Vet--I have a feeling the killer whale may still be permitted. Former–Write if you get work! I think it’s a terrific idea. Can I tag along? Sort of a Vice Ethicist (contradiction in term?)

Vet–I have a feeling the killer whale may still be permitted.

]]> By: pharmavet http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477717 pharmavet Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:47:58 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477717 I agree with FPMD about Pharma getting out of the business of CME. However, without Pharma support, future medical meetings will look something like the following: 1) meeting will be switched from midwinter Orlando to midwinter in Chicago, to take advantage of off-peak hotel rates, where the average daily temp is about 18 degrees F. 2) no more 6AM satellite symposium with full breakfast of eggs benedict, pancakes, Canadian bacon, sausage, warm rolls, Bananas Foster, Crepes Fitgerald and capuccino. To be replaced by a cold bagel and lukewarm Maxwell House Coffee. 3) no more outings with the wife to Sea World (killer whales notwithstanding). 4) no more wine tasting events. 5) no more truffles on the pillow to greet incoming guests. 5) filet mignon at dinner to be replaced by round steak. 6) no more great musical entertainment (we had The Eagles in 1993 for a $300K set). 7) no more jetting 300 doctors and wives to Cancun or San Diego for an all-expense paid launch meeting for a new drug. 8) no more golf on Kiawah Island or jet skiing in Florida on the company. 9) no more discounts on medical textbooks or audiotapes. 10) no more "Meet the Professor" over fondue to discuss latest research. I'm not one for perks, but some of the above changes paint a fairly realistic picture of what the loss of Pharma support will mean to CME. I agree with FPMD about Pharma getting out of the business of CME. However, without Pharma support, future medical meetings will look something like the following:

1) meeting will be switched from midwinter Orlando to midwinter in Chicago, to take advantage of off-peak hotel rates, where the average daily temp is about 18 degrees F.

2) no more 6AM satellite symposium with full breakfast of eggs benedict, pancakes, Canadian bacon, sausage, warm rolls, Bananas Foster, Crepes Fitgerald and capuccino. To be replaced by a cold bagel and lukewarm Maxwell House Coffee.

3) no more outings with the wife to Sea World (killer whales notwithstanding).

4) no more wine tasting events.

5) no more truffles on the pillow to greet incoming guests.

5) filet mignon at dinner to be replaced by round steak.

6) no more great musical entertainment (we had The Eagles in 1993 for a $300K set).

7) no more jetting 300 doctors and wives to Cancun or San Diego for an all-expense paid launch meeting for a new drug.

8) no more golf on Kiawah Island or jet skiing in Florida on the company.

9) no more discounts on medical textbooks or audiotapes.

10) no more “Meet the Professor” over fondue to discuss latest research.

I’m not one for perks, but some of the above changes paint a fairly realistic picture of what the loss of Pharma support will mean to CME.

]]> By: elmore http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477697 elmore Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:01:57 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477697 Was Nobles around when the bad stuff was going on? Was Nobles around when the bad stuff was going on?

]]> By: Josh http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/03/lilly-adds-ethics-watchdogs-to-settle-lawsuits/#comment-477591 Josh Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:32:29 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=21895#comment-477591 Does Nobles report through the board or through the CEO? I would think that the people in these positions would have more teeth if they didn't report through the CEO or "upper management". Does Nobles report through the board or through the CEO? I would think that the people in these positions would have more teeth if they didn’t report through the CEO or “upper management”.

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