Comments on: The Lowdown On Low Testosterone And AndroGel http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/ News, Comment and Conversation Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:14:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Horatio http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-601400 Horatio Tue, 01 Feb 2011 18:53:16 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-601400 I was at Solvay while this was going on and believe me, they would have recommended testosterone to almost anyone. I was at Solvay while this was going on and believe me, they would have recommended testosterone to almost anyone.

]]> By: ed Holden http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-596626 ed Holden Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:35:08 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-596626 How about the study called Massachussetts Male Aging Study which is like the Framingham study in design. It is showing the complete opposite of what everyone else is saying on this board. People please don't listen to your pharmacist, talk to your doctor. They have read all of the studies and if they have'nt will refer you to an Endocrinologist or a Urologist who has the KNOWLEGE and TRAINING to diagnose and treat medical conditions. Pharmacists are entitle to an opinion like anyone but you guys need to stick to what you know and thats very little about practicing medicine. That questionaire is called the ADAM Questionaire and it is based on scientific data to SCREEEN you for Low T not to diagnose. Take the quiz 1, 3 and 7 are most important if you want to get your T checked it is simple and you will be getting a lipid panel as well so have it checked anyway. How about the study called Massachussetts Male Aging Study which is like the Framingham study in design. It is showing the complete opposite of what everyone else is saying on this board. People please don’t listen to your pharmacist, talk to your doctor. They have read all of the studies and if they have’nt will refer you to an Endocrinologist or a Urologist who has the KNOWLEGE and TRAINING to diagnose and treat medical conditions. Pharmacists are entitle to an opinion like anyone but you guys need to stick to what you know and thats very little about practicing medicine. That questionaire is called the ADAM Questionaire and it is based on scientific data to SCREEEN you for Low T not to diagnose. Take the quiz 1, 3 and 7 are most important if you want to get your T checked it is simple and you will be getting a lipid panel as well so have it checked anyway.

]]> By: Jason http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-593724 Jason Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:56:16 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-593724 "Androgel" is only 1% testosterone, or at times can be prescribed at 2%. These are VERY LOW doses!It is an expensive medication, that they are trying to promote even with vouchers for the first six months of treatment. "Testigel" which is EXACTLY the same is also only 1% in each little tube to be once used daily. They are both transdermal and meant to rub on the skin. THEY ARE BOTH WEAK helpful but weak. For example the athletes that were using a cream at balco labs "Bonds"Giambi"Sheffield"Marion Jones"Shane Mosley were using a cream that was 25% testosteone, 25x's stonger then ANDROGEL!!!!!!!! this also means at 1% the side effects short and long, are basically non-existent. “Androgel” is only 1% testosterone, or at times can be prescribed at 2%. These are VERY LOW doses!It is an expensive medication, that they are trying to promote even with vouchers for the first
six months of treatment. “Testigel” which is EXACTLY the same is also only 1% in each little tube to be once used daily. They are both transdermal and meant to rub on the skin. THEY ARE BOTH WEAK helpful but weak. For example the
athletes that were using a cream at balco labs
“Bonds”Giambi”Sheffield”Marion Jones”Shane Mosley
were using a cream that was 25% testosteone, 25x’s stonger then ANDROGEL!!!!!!!! this also means at 1% the side effects short and long, are basically non-existent.

]]> By: Art http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-572349 Art Sun, 31 Oct 2010 02:28:42 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-572349 I have used Androgel for over 7 years after I had my testicles removed because of cancer. It works well and is less painful than the rash from the patches or weekly shots. I will not have health insurance after March of 2011 and cannot afford the $500+ /month for Androgel. Any thoughts or solutions? I have used Androgel for over 7 years after I had my testicles removed because of cancer. It works well and is less painful than the rash from the patches or weekly shots.

I will not have health insurance after March of 2011 and cannot afford the $500+ /month for Androgel. Any thoughts or solutions?

]]> By: michael knortz http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-568729 michael knortz Mon, 25 Oct 2010 01:43:10 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-568729 I have been taking Testin for three weeks now. Wish I had a Dr. that would have thought to test for low T a couple of years ago. It is making a whole bunch of problems go away. I'm 25 lbs overweight but have been watching my diet and have exercised like crazy for 10 months. I wasn't able to loose weight. It took 1 week for me to feel my mussels getting tighter and stronger. My mood is better. I laughed at a joke, something that I stopped doing a lonf time ago. Before Testin I took a bunch of different medications and I have stopped all of them. The side effects from Testin appear to be minimal and in my opinion not taking it could result in heart disease and obesity. I have been taking Testin for three weeks now. Wish I had a Dr. that would have thought to test for low T a couple of years ago. It is making a whole bunch of problems go away. I’m 25 lbs overweight but have been watching my diet and have exercised like crazy for 10 months. I wasn’t able to loose weight. It took 1 week for me to feel my mussels getting tighter and stronger. My mood is better. I laughed at a joke, something that I stopped doing a lonf time ago. Before Testin I took a bunch of different medications and I have stopped all of them. The side effects from Testin appear to be minimal and in my opinion not taking it could result in heart disease and obesity.

]]> By: Bingo http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-512741 Bingo Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:26:40 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-512741 In August 2015 unless the FTC has its way and the settlements between Solvay Watson, Par, and Paddock are overturned. The FTC lost at the district court level in February. In August 2015 unless the FTC has its way and the settlements between Solvay Watson, Par, and Paddock are overturned. The FTC lost at the district court level in February.

]]> By: Tom http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-512737 Tom Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:53:24 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-512737 Is Androgel going generic? Is Androgel going generic?

]]> By: G-Force http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-511456 G-Force Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:25:48 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-511456 Completely naive responses! Talk to actual physicians/patients treating and/or being treated regardless of the media driven information that typically sours most things..majority would debate these comments. And to comment on implementing a lifestyle plan including exercise and nutrition...I agree 100% and actually train individuals to achieve both fitness & nutrition goals....realisticly for the masses I will say men are lazy and unwilling to push their bodies consistently to naturally impact those associated conditions/symptoms associated with Hypogonadism.....Primary or Secondary for that matter! Decreases in testosterone levels among us men take place over a longer period of time (starting around 25-26 years of age) at a rate of 1-3% each year....even more pronounced if other co-morbided conditions exist...referenced in a few studies actually referenced in this article. I agree that androgens can be "fuel to the fire" if prostate/breast carcinomas exist however if not the benefits of restoring testosterone levels to normal within the wide range...300-1000 ng/dL (according to Endocrine Guidelines)can and will continue to provide proven benefits. The assays when drawn in a typical clinical setting may present inconsistent results which is why it is recommended to repeat the assay in the early AM hours to confirm that an individual is truly hypogonadal...based on symptoms (that majority of men are clueless and/or embarrassed to admit) and yes the lab results. FYI.....As men age (>50) the Free Testosterone levels decrease with age...this is the most active form of testosterone. The Free Testosterone tightly binds to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin in turn creates a misdiagnosis of having Normal Testosterone levels in most cases...If you don't remain active and maintain proper nutrition as men age their natural production decreases significantly. Now for the obese...Waist circumference >40....an enzyme called Aromatase lives in the adipose tissues (visceral fat) and converts the natural Testosterone production to Estradiol via a process called Aromatazation...Now consistent exercise and nutrition can be vital part to changing this however for majority of men and/or women...WE WANT RESULTS FAST WITHOUT MUCH WORK AND/OR EFFORT! We will always get older but it's our daily choice of consistent exercise/nutrition to help maintain the natural production of hormones to balance our quality of life....if not able/willing...products such as AndroGel plays an important role for restoring Testosterone levels into normal ranges.... Keep debating and not feeling/making a difference...Hyponadism, Low Testosterone, Males Menopause, Androgen Deficiency, etc. is REAL.... G-Force Completely naive responses!

Talk to actual physicians/patients treating and/or being treated regardless of the media driven information that typically sours most things..majority would debate these comments. And to comment on implementing a lifestyle plan including exercise and nutrition…I agree 100% and actually train individuals to achieve both fitness & nutrition goals….realisticly for the masses I will say men are lazy and unwilling to push their bodies consistently to naturally impact those associated conditions/symptoms associated with Hypogonadism…..Primary or Secondary for that matter!

Decreases in testosterone levels among us men take place over a longer period of time (starting around 25-26 years of age) at a rate of 1-3% each year….even more pronounced if other co-morbided conditions exist…referenced in a few studies actually referenced in this article. I agree that androgens can be “fuel to the fire” if prostate/breast carcinomas exist however if not the benefits of restoring testosterone levels to normal within the wide range…300-1000 ng/dL (according to Endocrine Guidelines)can and will continue to provide proven benefits.

The assays when drawn in a typical clinical setting may present inconsistent results which is why it is recommended to repeat the assay in the early AM hours to confirm that an individual is truly hypogonadal…based on symptoms (that majority of men are clueless and/or embarrassed to admit) and yes the lab results. FYI…..As men age (>50) the Free Testosterone levels decrease with age…this is the most active form of testosterone. The Free Testosterone tightly binds to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin in turn creates a misdiagnosis of having Normal Testosterone levels in most cases…If you don’t remain active and maintain proper nutrition as men age their natural production decreases significantly. Now for the obese…Waist circumference >40….an enzyme called Aromatase lives in the adipose tissues (visceral fat) and converts the natural Testosterone production to Estradiol via a process called Aromatazation…Now consistent exercise and nutrition can be vital part to changing this however for majority of men and/or women…WE WANT RESULTS FAST WITHOUT MUCH WORK AND/OR EFFORT! We will always get older but it’s our daily choice of consistent exercise/nutrition to help maintain the natural production of hormones to balance our quality of life….if not able/willing…products such as AndroGel plays an important role for restoring Testosterone levels into normal ranges….

Keep debating and not feeling/making a difference…Hyponadism, Low Testosterone, Males Menopause, Androgen Deficiency, etc. is REAL….

G-Force

]]> By: pharmavet http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-510339 pharmavet Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:36:25 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-510339 Greg, I empathize with you about Abbott, a company that I once worked for. To this day I still believe that their price hike on Norvir a few years ago was reprehensible. Greg, I empathize with you about Abbott, a company that I once worked for. To this day I still believe that their price hike on Norvir a few years ago was reprehensible.

]]> By: Greg http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/06/the-lowdown-on-low-testosterone-and-androgel/#comment-509506 Greg Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:53:19 +0000 http://www.pharmalot.com/?p=24146#comment-509506 I am HIV+ and therefore have to be aware of my t-cell count (as well other more telling indicators). Therefore, when I saw ads talking about "low t," I thought it was an ad regarding HIV/AIDS. So Abbott may have further confused adult males regarding a more threatening illness than low testosterone. But wait, there's more! As prescribed by my doc, I used Androgel for about five years because many men with HIV/AIDS suffer from low testosterone. Yet during the time I used Androgel, I saw no increase in testosterone. As time progressed in about year 3 of Androgel usage, I became frustrated with applying that yucky mess to my somewhat-hairy chest and increasingly "fell off the Androgel wagon." When I finally confessed to my physician about no longer taking it (at the fifth year), he thought that made sense as at least for me, Androgel just didn't work, and wasn't worth the hassle. I wonder how many other folks found this out and thus Abbott/Solvay decided "what we need is a new marketing tactic. Is this why we have the "Low T" message? And will folks grow increasingly tired and wise to stop paying attention to every new "plague" drummed up by over-the-counter and pharmaceutical drug manufacturers? Perhaps the numbers and letters game has groaned too much! I am HIV+ and therefore have to be aware of my t-cell count (as well other more telling indicators). Therefore, when I saw ads talking about “low t,” I thought it was an ad regarding HIV/AIDS. So Abbott may have further confused adult males regarding a more threatening illness than low testosterone.

But wait, there’s more! As prescribed by my doc, I used Androgel for about five years because many men with HIV/AIDS suffer from low testosterone. Yet during the time I used Androgel, I saw no increase in testosterone. As time progressed in about year 3 of Androgel usage, I became frustrated with applying that yucky mess to my somewhat-hairy chest and increasingly “fell off the Androgel wagon.”

When I finally confessed to my physician about no longer taking it (at the fifth year), he thought that made sense as at least for me, Androgel just didn’t work, and wasn’t worth the hassle.

I wonder how many other folks found this out and thus Abbott/Solvay decided “what we need is a new marketing tactic.

Is this why we have the “Low T” message? And will folks grow increasingly tired and wise to stop paying attention to every new “plague” drummed up by over-the-counter and pharmaceutical drug manufacturers? Perhaps the numbers and letters game has groaned too much!

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